There was a long thread about this vulnerability way back when. I even 
experienced it once where I was sent a URL that had the userref on it and 
joined a session, seeing lots of stuff that shouldn't be shared.

Prevention is easy. Just don't do it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Robert Garcia <wita...@bighead.net> wrote:

> I guess, I thought I remembered you could alter that, but IMHO a good feature 
> would be to set the server to use cookies ONLY, so that a session could not 
> be hijacked via url or post. Otherwise, the security flaw is still there, you 
> just are limiting the "leakage" of userreference IDs.
>
> --
>
> Robert Garcia
> President - BigHead Technology
> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
> 15520 Coutelenc Rd
> Magalia, Ca 95954
> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
> rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
>
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>
>> This is not a function of the server. The server will first look for the 
>> session cookie, then the search argument and finally a post argument, to 
>> identify a userreference. This behavior can’t be changed.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:wita...@bighead.net]
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:57 PM
>> To: Witango-Talk@witango.com
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alternate Dumb Question Thread: Security
>>
>> Thats a good point, but correct me if I am wrong, that is not enough. You 
>> must also disable witango from parsing the URL looking for the 
>> userreference, or session can still be hijacked. I think that is in system 
>> configuration.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Robert Garcia
>> President - BigHead Technology
>> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
>> 15520 Coutelenc Rd
>> Magalia, Ca 95954
>> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
>> rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>
>>
>> A long-term and easily addressed security issue with tango/witango is the 
>> use of _userreference argument in the URL. The builders default to using 
>> this. LIkely, back in the early pre-pleistocene days of tango, it was 
>> practical to pass this argument in the URL because of cookies being blocked 
>> or something like that. Using this feature enables session hijacking and 
>> other evils. If you use builders, you should strip out this URL argument. 
>> Otherwise, don't do it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Deutschendorf, Steve {Dutch} (MSFC-IS30) wrote:
>>
>>
>> Well, I misspoke, we also have a few v5.0.1 sites.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Robert.
>>
>> Steve Deutschendorf/IS30
>> NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center
>> Office of the CIO/Applications Team
>> MSFC Account Authorization Official (AAO),
>> MAMS/MIW, NISE, NAMS, MICS, AIM, SRS
>> Phone: 256-544-2250
>>
>>
>> From: Robert Garcia <wita...@bighead.net>
>> Reply-To: "Witango-Talk@witango.com" <Witango-Talk@witango.com>
>> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 13:00:30 -0600
>> To: "Witango-Talk@witango.com" <Witango-Talk@witango.com>
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alternate Dumb Question Thread: Security
>>
>> The only real security issue we ever worried about with witango, is SQL 
>> injection, and then just poor coding as it relates to login methodologies 
>> where there are "holes", that would occur on any platform. So you should 
>> always use BIND or database actions, not custom inserts/updates when user 
>> inputted data is going into a query.
>>
>> Witango had a flaw that was patched, so make sure you are on the latest 5.5. 
>> Witango will be secure, because it has so little market share, no one is 
>> likely to work to exploit it. Anyway, other than that one buffer overflow 
>> security patch, I have not seen or heard of a security flaw that was related 
>> to witango, it has always been due to poor coding.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Robert Garcia
>> President - BigHead Technology
>> VP Application Development - eventpix.com <http://eventpix.com>
>> 15520 Coutelenc Rd
>> Magalia, Ca 95954
>> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
>> rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Deutschendorf, Steve {Dutch} (MSFC-IS30) wrote:
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> We've had (Wi)Tango around for a dozen years and I can say it's been worry 
>> free in our environment.  The fact that it still functions after various 
>> degrees of support (or not) over those years is a credit to the foundational 
>> work. I can't say that I've seen much discussion on the security 
>> implications of the product along the way, so let me ask...
>>
>> What are the security implications in remaining with v5.5 for some of our 
>> legacy applications?  Looks like we'll be moving to a different environment 
>> over time (for various support reasons), so I just wanted to appreciate the 
>> risk of hanging with my current version.  I realize the product/OS support 
>> will eventually force an upward migration.  Are there current issues with 
>> v5.5 that I may be unaware or is it by it’s very nature strictly dependent 
>> on the security gaps in the OS or database?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve Deutschendorf/IS30
>> NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center
>> Office of the CIO/Applications Team
>> Phone: 256-544-2250
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to lists...@witango.com 
>> with "unsubscribe witango-talk" in the body.
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to lists...@witango.com 
>> with "unsubscribe witango-talk" in the body.
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to lists...@witango.com 
>> with "unsubscribe witango-talk" in the body.
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to lists...@witango.com 
>> with "unsubscribe witango-talk" in the body.
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to lists...@witango.com 
>> with "unsubscribe witango-talk" in the body.
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to lists...@witango.com 
>> with "unsubscribe witango-talk" in the body.
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to lists...@witango.com 
> with "unsubscribe witango-talk" in the body.


----------------------------------------

To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to lists...@witango.com 
with "unsubscribe witango-talk" in the body.

Reply via email to