devbundle needs to be finished. It's about 80% done, I think... I just ran
out of time.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Blair Murri <os...@live.com> wrote:
> The devbundle branch should be mentioned so that the correct version of
> some of the tools are used.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: r...@robmensching.com
> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:44:00 -0700
> To: wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [WiX-devs] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Interested in helping
> on 3.8
>
>
> 1. Right. So we do need a getting started guide for Git's use in WiX. I
> was hoping we wouldn't need this since I don't see other projects adding
> one. But if it helps we should do it.
>
> 2. I always use x86. MSBuild isn't on my path but I tend to use MSBuild v4
> to build stuff. In the end, we should get all reasonable permutations to
> work and should error on things that are not supported. In
> tools\WixBuild.Tools.targets is the CheckRequiredProperties target that we
> can enhance to ensure the build is in the correct state before continuing.
>
> 3. That's the right file. The v3 manual on the website is built from the
> latest "v3.x" build available which is v3.8 today so adding good stuff to
> that file will help others in the future.
>
> 4. Historically there have been *very* few people interested in building
> Votive (for example, I don't usually build it) so it is possible we could
> do more to help people understand what's automatically turned off. I'm
> certainly open to ideas.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Christopher Painter <chr...@iswix.com>wrote:
>
> I've used a number of SCC tools over the year and have only used Git in
> the past month. It was GitHub though and a totally different experience.
> I stumbled with Codeplex UI. They show you the source with a dropdown of
> branches and a download button and you kind of expect that if I select
> wix38 it'll download wix38. It does not. Also they show you the clone
> command and you think it'll get you on 38 but it doesn't. I did find a
> place where you can look at history and download the changeset and that
> does get you wix38. So this is going on at the same time I'm trying to
> figure out how to build the source that I finally realize that I wasn't
> always getting the source that I thought I was getting. Oh and I went down
> a rabbit hole of setting up Mecurial based on Bob's old blog post when I
> didn't need to.
>
> No, I don't expect a full tutorial but certainly 3-5 tips would probably
> help a new guy like myself. :)
>
> #2 - What is an empty cmd shell to you? x86 or x64? Which version of
> MSBuild in the path? I don't expect all permutations to work, I just want
> to know which permutation would be ideal.
>
> #3- Seems like it should be mentioned here:
> http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/wixdev/building_wix.html
> This seems to be /src/chm/documents/wixdev/building_wix.html.md but I'm
> guessing the website doesn't get it from the wix38 branch.
>
> #4- That was the issue. I finally thought I had a good build but in
> reality I had a votive.msi with 1 file it. It just happened to be I was
> very interested in votive so the disappointment was more in realizing that
> I had a good build but not a good full build and that I still had more to
> figure out before I could start playing.
>
> #5. Bummer agreed. I'll reset the VM and discover them again no doubt. :)
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "Bruce Cran" <bc...@fusionio.com>
> *Sent*: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:36 AM
>
> *To*: "Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list" <
> wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Subject*: Re: [WiX-devs] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Interested in helping on
> 3.8
>
>
> At $work we mostly use Mercurial (previous jobs used CVS and ClearCase)
> and colleagues struggled to learn git when they moved onto a new project.
> At a minimum we probably need to advise people to add “-b wix38” etc. when
> cloning the repository.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> *From:* Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 3:27 PM
> *To:* Christopher Painter; Windows Installer XML toolset developer
> mailing list
> *Subject:* [WiX-devs] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Interested in helping on 3.8
>
>
>
> 1. Do we need to write a tutorial for git for WiX toolset? I'd hoped git
> had taken over the world enough that we don't need a tutorial how to
> download code with it. No?
>
>
>
> 2. I use an empty cmd shell most of the time. Things *should* just work
> but if you have a permutation that you used that didn't work we can try to
> get it fixed. To be clear, there are a *lot* of configurations that could
> be tested. It's non-trivial.
>
>
>
> 3. That'd be a great thing to contribute. Can you add it to the
> documentation where you thought it should have been spelled out?
>
>
>
> 4. That doesn't sound right. I have a machine with VS2008 and VS2010 and
> it skips all VS2012 stuff. I now have a VS2012 machine and it skips all the
> VS2008 and VS2010 stuff. What issues did you have?
>
>
>
> 5. Bummer indeed.
>
>
>
> That's how we got what we have today. There are a lot of permutations and
> I'm do not have the time to create the VMs to test them all. Instead, if
> one has a configuration that doesn't work, let's capture what we can from
> that and improve.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Christopher Painter <chr...@iswix.com>
> wrote:
>
> Rob,
>
> I agree it *is* much better then it used to be. Still, I did hit a
> number of road bumps over the weekend. The problem is it's hard for me to
> write up any suggestions because my conclusions could be all wrong. And
> it's hard for you to identify the gaps due to you already knowing the ins
> and outs. Make sense?
>
> I think the process is pretty good as it stands now.... just more
> documentation in the how to build wix needs to exist. I had to scrape
> several sources (some old and outdated) to get to a point of building.
> Some high level issues were:
>
> 1) Pulling source from CodePlex. Bob's blog talked about Mecurial but now
> it seems to be Git. (Depending on what branch you are on?)
> 2) What version and bitness of vs command tools should be used? (I was
> getting CreateItem task errors out of the nuget targets.)
> 3) It seems OneTimeWixBuildInitialization.proj has to be built as admin.
> The help topic doesn't cover this.
> 4) It seems there are conditional compiles that are only enforced for an
> "official build". Good design, but tough for a new guy that doesn't know
> this. I had to turn to twitter to figure this out.
> 5) Others I sadly don't recall....
>
> I guess my advice is start with a clean VM and pretend you don't know
> anything about WiX and see what's involved in getting it all to build.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From*: "Rob Mensching" <r...@robmensching.com>
> *Sent*: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:02 AM
> *To*: "Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list" <
> wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Subject*: [WiX-devs] [SPAM] Re: Interested in helping on 3.8
>
>
>
> Your notes and any thoughts on getting the WiX toolset build process
> easier would be very useful. We've done work over last few releases to get
> WiX toolset much easier to build but if there is more we can do, we should
> do it. People still say there are challenges building the WiX toolset.
>
>
>
> If you're just getting started, a really easy bug to fix might be good
> place to start. #4037 (http://wixtoolset.org/issues/4037/) might be a
> good one.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Phill Hogland <phogl...@rimage.com>
> wrote:
>
> I am interested in offering any help I can provide. I am relatively new to
> wix, msi, msbuild, c# but I have too many years of doing pure InstallScript
> setups and C++ services and drivers. Please let me know how I can help
> test, document, code, or whatever.
>
> While waiting for my legal/management team to approve the assignment
> agreement, approved and submitted to Outercurve this morning, in addition
> to
> configuring my work development system to build the debug version of Wix
> 3.8, at home I created a new PC (Win 7 64, but I can load other OS),
> installed VS2013, VS2013 SDK, Win 7 SDK, and the latest Wix 3.8 source
> code.
> I have over the last several nights been trying to hack past problems with
> building the full wix.proj, and keeping notes so I can report back if that
> would be helpful. It wants me to install Win7 SDK (which is installed) or
> VS2010 (which is not installed). So for now I am just trying to learn more
> about the build process by researching these issues. But I am happy to
> refocus on anything that would be more helpful.
>
>
>
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