I wasn't providing Burn as an immediate option, I was suggesting that
caching was the best solution and we were doing that ourselves in Burn.

Also, when you run Burn it can fix the cache should it be "corrupted" (or
cleaned).
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Christopher Painter <
chr...@deploymentengineering.com> wrote:

> Awesome except that  burn isn't actually fully baked yet.
>
> Either way, I can tell you from my Continental Airlines days that caching
> isn't
> enough because you'll always have users and administrators
> who intentionally
> whack the cache to free up disk space.   Tools such as SMS 2003 ( I have
> never
> used newer SCCM versions )  had an ability to call into the MSI API and
> associate packages on distribution points as source locations but they were
> limited in their capability of only connecting  "local" and not "remote"
> subnets.  I had to write some code that could figure this out and make the
> connection.
>
> I wrote a blog about 6 years ago talking about all this.   You might be
> amazed
> how difficult it actually is to run patches across 12,000 machines on
> several
> continents while making sure the original MSI is resolvable just in case
> it's
> needed.   One of the things that I 'love' about MSI.
>
> http://blog.deploymentengineering.com/search?q=sms+patching
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com>
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>  Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 2:59:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] upgrade requesting location of previous MSI
>
> Very true. That's why Burn caches the MSI for you.
>
> Minimizing source prompts is good as well... <smile/>
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Wilson, Phil <phil.wil...@invensys.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I've also seen this behavior during upgrades. The source MSI always need
> to
> > be available, whether we like it or not, because you can't tell when this
> > can happen.
> >
> > A typical scenario during upgrade is that RemoveExistingProducts is
> > sequenced early. The upgrade therefore needs to apply versioning rules to
> > see if the incoming file should replace the existing one. If it turns out
> > that the version on the system does not match what it's supposed to be
> from
> > its source MSI file, then the only way that Windows can figure out
> whether
> > to replace it or not is to ask for the original source MSI for that older
> > product version, install the file, and then see if it should be replaced.
> >
> > There are more straightforward reasons however, like an inappropiate
> > ResolveSource action during the uninstall of the older product. Verbose
> logs
> > should tell you what's going on.
> >
> > Phil Wilson
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:01 AM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] upgrade requesting location of previous MSI
> >
> > Is the upgrade shipped as an MSI or an MSP? I've seen that happen with
> > MSP's when doing stuff like deleting files from the new version without
> > authoring an appropriate RemoveFile.
> >
> > If it's an MSI are you using a bootstrapper to deploy it or just the raw
> > MSI?
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> > Sent: 04 November 2010 17:37
> > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: [WiX-users] upgrade requesting location of previous MSI
> >
> > I have been unable to recreate this issue here, but I am getting reports
> > of users attempting to upgrade to the next version of our product
> > getting a dialog to browse to the location of the previous version's MSI
> > file, which is no longer where the installing user had it.
> >
> > This is causing the upgrade to fail.  Like I said, I am unable to
> > reproduce this issue.  But I have to find some way to resolve it short
> > of delivering the previous version of our product with the upgrade.
> >
> > Does anyone know what might be causing this?
> >
> > John
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