Another bit of an update to complete the info in the forum:
In order to make the multilanguage, the msi takes the property "user locale"
that
can be retrieved through the function GetUserDefaultLCID.
In a simple C++ console app:
#include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <windows.h>
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
LANGID userLocale = GetUserDefaultLCID();
std::cout << "User locale = " << userLocale << std::endl;
system("pause");
return 0;
}
In Windows 7, this does not change when changing the so called display
language, but when changing the language format! (check
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3527-format-regional-language-change.html
to see where do I mean).
That's it. Changing that my multilanguage msi "works" (yet it does not seem
anymore as a robust/viable solution)
Regards
Francisco
2011/3/18 Francisco Gabriel Malbrán <fgmalb...@gmail.com>
> Tobias,
>
> Thank you very much for your help and time. Your answer was really complete
> and clear.
>
> As you state, this undocumented "feature" of the msi's so widely used has
> it's
> fallbacks (basically, we assume things, while different windows installer
> versions
> may do their own way, or suddenly disable such "feature", for example)
>
> I think I finally understood why the multilanguage approachs so widely
> documented by users all around the world won't work for me: Turns out that
> I
> was trying this in Windows 7, changing the original language (english) to
> an
> official downloaded spanish language pack. However, this change DOES NOT
> CHANGE the underlying so called "OS language".
>
> I've discovered this by using the dotNetInstaller bootstraping tool. It has
> automatic
> language detection, so I made only a particular configuration for
> traditional spanish (1034).
> The bootstrapped installer then told me that there were no configurations
> matching my
> system locale. I've added to the configuration a filter that captures every
> documented spanish
> LCID. Again, resulting installer told me that no configuration matched my
> os config.
> I checked the log and it said it only detected a "1033" lcid.
>
> To go deeper in the problem, I've used a wmi tool that comes with windows
> 7: wbemtest.exe
> (you can find it in system32 folder).
> There I was able to do the following consult:
>
> select Locale from Win32_OperatingSystem
>
> Once I double clicked in the result, I found that all locale variables were
> still with a value
> of 1033 (as dotNetInstaller stated).
>
> Then I made
>
> select * from Win32_OperatingSystem
>
> And I found a variable called "MUILanguages" with value "en-US, es-ES". I
> also
> found a variable "OSLanguage" with value "1033".
>
> So, in conclusion, what Windows 7 calls a Language pack, should really be
> called
> "Display Language Pack" since it only "masks" everything in another
> language, while
> at the low level keeps the original language. For example, folder names
> still in english,
> but are shown to the users as in another language.
>
> This is pretty much annoying, since dotNetInstaller also relies on the
> Locale value and
> not in the MUILanguage selected.
>
> I've also tried an installshield installer that was supposedly with an
> automatic multilanguage
> feature. Yet it popped out in english!
>
> I'm still figuring out the best path to follow here. This will probably
> imply creating a bootstrapper
> from scratch which use some variable like MUILanguage instead of Locale.
>
>
> In the other hand, the information about arabic was pretty useful.
>
> Once again, thanks to Tobias and to all the list for the really helpful
> help :).
>
> Best regards
>
> Francisco
>
>
> 2011/3/17 Tobias S <tobias.s1...@gmail.com>
>
>> Francisco,
>>
>> When you get it working with the transform msiexec /i installer.msi
>> TRANSFORMS=":1034". (I'm wondering about the ":1034" - should be e.g.
>> 1034.mst???) this means it is working with your produced spanish
>> transform applied to the english one. So when going back to
>> InstallSite your problems can result in problems in step 3. or 4. .
>>
>> In general and why I don't like this approach very much: you must rely
>> on the way here this undocumented feature retrieves the current OS
>> language. If something goes wrong here it is difficult to track down
>> the real issue. So did you try the package on several spanish systems
>> ?
>>
>> Btw: Spanish if I remember right this is the OS where the LCID is 1034
>> and additionally other LCIDs exist. Maybe that causes problems in
>> detecting a spanish OS with these embedded transforms. Read
>>
>> http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/LCIDs-of-the-supported-languages-of-WixUIExtension-tp5910168p5910168.html
>> So maybe use some other language first to track down the problem and
>> set the OS language as described in InstallSite.
>>
>> I'd recommend you to use e.g. German and 1031 for your testing. Please
>> do exactly following:
>> 1. Build the MSI + transform
>> 2. test it with msiexec /i setup.msi TRANSFORMS=1031.mst
>>
>> If working
>> 3. embed the transform with
>> wisubstg.vbs Setup.msi 1031.mst 1031
>>
>> 4. ORCA: View -> Summary Information... -> there change Languages to
>> "1033,1031" (without quotes and without empty spaces between the
>> numbers) and save the
>> package afterwards)
>>
>> Change the computer language of the system to German (Gerrmany) as
>> described on InstallSite. If still not working: Interesting is the
>> output of step 3. Please post it here. Be aware that you work exactly
>> on the generated packages and no dirty ones where possibly something
>> went wrong...
>>
>> Regarding Arabic: Think of only localize text and not "RTL" the UIs.
>> One of our arabic speaking guys told me that these people are used of
>> not well RTL modified UIs. If you still want to do so: Get an
>> installShield demo (they offer well RTL layout, think only the graphic
>> on the start dlg and finish dialog is turned) and modify the WiX
>> dialogs in WiX sources folder src\ext\UIExtension\wixlib (approx 25 -
>> 30 dialogs and User Interface "sequences"). Think it should be
>> possible here as well to embed a transform for the modifications even
>> here this transform then contains a completely modified UI. But as
>> never done also expect some issues when transforming with a torch
>> generated transform for arabic (not sure whether -t Language is
>> enough).
>>
>> As already stated think of using a bootstrapper for the language
>> transform application (e.g. dotnetinstaller) instead of the embedded
>> approach.
>>
>> regards
>> Tobias
>>
>>
>> 2011/3/17 Francisco Gabriel Malbrán <fgmalb...@gmail.com>:
>> > Thanks Michael. I've tried your solution as well but still no results.
>> >
>> > Can any body please attach an empty/demo version of your multilanguage
>> msi
>> > to test it out in my computer? This way I would be able to detect if the
>> > problem is in the procedure or in the environment.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance
>> >
>> > Francisco
>> >
>> > 2011/3/17 Michael Tissington <michael_tissing...@ciqual.com>
>> >
>> >> out
>> >> "$(ProjectDir)$(OutDir)1040.mst"
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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