Too bad ... What are the properties for CultureGroup ? Where does this come from?
Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 March 2011 11:49 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install Nope don't think so as WiSubStg.vbs + WiLangId.vbs are part of the Windows SDK and WiX will use Burn for Multilanguage Bootstrapper installers. And as the Transform Embedding is undocumented I don't assume WiX will write wrappers for such a purpose. To do so you must e.g. write an own C# task fulfilling the actions from these 2 VBscripts. Think this should be possible using DTF. It's adding the transform(s) to a binary stream and modify the Summary Information stream... 2011/3/18 Michael Tissington <michael_tissing...@ciqual.com>: > Thanks got it :) > > Are there any additional hidden gems (undocumented tasks)to do the > additional two task to embed the mst files into a single msi? > Currently I'm using WiSubStg.vbs and WiLangID.vbs > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] > Sent: 18 March 2011 10:32 > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install > > you must build all languages of the MSI pacakge from one project. > Think there is no additional modification necessary as the AfterBuild > target starts when there already exist the different MSIs (e.g. > en-US\MySetupProject.msi, de-DE\MySetupProject.msi and > ja-JP\MySetupProject.msi). > > BTW: be sure not using a autogenerated ProductCode ("*") to not > transform this by the transforms as well! > > > > 2011/3/18 Michael Tissington <michael_tissing...@ciqual.com>: >> Thanks for the detailed info .. >> >> I'm trying to implement this. This seems to require that the en-US is >> built first. >> How do I make this happen? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 18 March 2011 10:08 >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install >> >> You must add a torch task to the AfterBuild target in the wixproj file. >> >> Following a description assuming you are using VS2010 English, your >> solution is called MySetupProject and you want to create for an >> english MSI the needed MSTs: >> Solution Explorer -> Choose the Setup Project -> Right click -> >> Unload Project -> Right click -> Edit MySetupProject.wixproj >> >> Uncomment >> <Target Name="AfterBuild"> >> </Target> >> >> and modify it to e.g. >> >> <Target Name="AfterBuild"> >> <Torch >> Condition="%(CultureGroup.Identity) != 'en-US'" >> ToolPath="$(WixToolPath)" >> BaselineFile="$(TargetDir)en-US\$(TargetFileName)" >> >> UpdateFile="$(TargetDir)%(CultureGroup.OutputFolder)$(TargetFileName)" >> OutputFile="$(TargetDir)en-US\%(CultureGroup.Identity).mst" >> AdditionalOptions="-t Language" /> >> </Target> >> >> >> Reload project and build ... >> >> This "undocumented" torch task is used here to build the transform(s) >> (no matter how much Cultures you have set) except for the "base" >> language en-US. >> >> >> @Chris: For your wish Checkbox: Commenting and uncommenting is >> necessary here. Thanks for your hint regarding WMIC. Use now the >> functionality of ProcessExplorer to show the passed MSI parameters >> :-) >> >> >> >> 2011/3/18 Michael Tissington <michael_tissing...@ciqual.com>: >>> This looks great - where do I put this? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: 18 March 2011 09:07 >>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. >>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install >>> >>> <Target Name="AfterBuild"> >>> <Torch >>> Condition="%(CultureGroup.Identity) != '$(DefaultLanguage)'" >>> ToolPath="$(WixToolPath)" >>> BaselineFile="$(TargetDir)$(DefaultLanguage)\$(TargetFileName)" >>> >> UpdateFile="$(TargetDir)%(CultureGroup.OutputFolder)$(TargetFileName)" >>> >>> OutputFile="$(TargetDir)$(DefaultLanguage)\%(CultureGroup.Identity)$ >>> ( >>> T >>> ransfo >>> rmExt)" >>> AdditionalOptions="-t Language" /> >>> </Target> >>> >>> for the WiX Proj ? This generates transforms in the "DefaultLanguage" >>> output folder. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2011/3/17 Christopher Painter <chr...@deploymentengineering.com>: >>>> Oh I already know how it works and can get it to work. :-) I was >>>> just wondering if there was a better way to generate the transforms >>>> then post build events that call torch. Votive has some nice >>>> msbuild support for encapsulating >>>> >>>> the underlying calls to the wix tools I just wish it has a little >>>> checkbox next >>>> >>>> to cultures to build ( generate language transforms ). >>>> >>>> BTW, you don't need a "man in the middle" to sniff out the command >>>> line, you can use wmic ( windows management instrumentation >>>> console >>>> ) >>> to do that. >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a >>>> hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves >>>> attention? E-Mail Me >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: Tobias S <tobias.s1...@gmail.com> >>>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. >>>> <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:52:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install >>>> >>>> @Chris: Am I understanding you right ? You want to apply a >>>> transform for the "base" language, e.g. english MSI + english MST + >>>> spanish MST ? For InstallShield as they build by default a >>>> transform for the default language ? If yes did you check with a >>>> "man in the middle tool" (custom msiexec.exe in directory of >>>> setup.exe which shows its calling command line) what the >>>> installshield setup.exe calls in case of the default Language ? >>>> (esp. if they already apply a transform or not ?) Not sure right >>>> now whether this works or not but I can check if Andreas Kerl wrote >>>> something in his book about this and the abilities of torch here. >>>> >>>> As a sample if you want e.g. 8 transforms you only need 2 MSIs in >>>> different languages and then can create an XML diff and modify this >>>> for the other 6 languages and from these generate the transforms >>>> again. This might reduce build time as not building the MSIs just >>>> for transform generation is needed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2011/3/17 Tobias S <tobias.s1...@gmail.com>: >>>>> Francisco, >>>>> >>>>> When you get it working with the transform msiexec /i >>>>> installer.msi TRANSFORMS=":1034". (I'm wondering about the ":1034" - should be e.g. >>>>> 1034.mst???) this means it is working with your produced spanish >>>>> transform applied to the english one. So when going back to >>>>> InstallSite your problems can result in problems in step 3. or 4. . >>>>> >>>>> In general and why I don't like this approach very much: you must >>>>> rely on the way here this undocumented feature retrieves the >>>>> current OS language. If something goes wrong here it is difficult >>>>> to track down the real issue. So did you try the package on >>>>> several spanish systems ? >>>>> >>>>> Btw: Spanish if I remember right this is the OS where the LCID is >>>>>1034 and additionally other LCIDs exist. Maybe that causes >>>>>problems in detecting a spanish OS with these embedded transforms. >>>>>Read >>>>>http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/LCIDs >>>>>- >>>>>o f >>>>>-the-supported-languages-of-WixUIExtension-tp5910168p5910168.html >>>>>l >>>>> So maybe use some other language first to track down the problem >>>>>and set the OS language as described in InstallSite. >>>>> >>>>> I'd recommend you to use e.g. German and 1031 for your testing. >>>>> Please do exactly following: >>>>> 1. Build the MSI + transform >>>>> 2. test it with msiexec /i setup.msi TRANSFORMS=1031.mst >>>>> >>>>> If working >>>>> 3. embed the transform with >>>>> wisubstg.vbs Setup.msi 1031.mst 1031 >>>>> >>>>> 4. ORCA: View -> Summary Information... -> there change Languages >>>>> to "1033,1031" (without quotes and without empty spaces between >>>>> the >>>>> numbers) and save the >>>>> package afterwards) >>>>> >>>>> Change the computer language of the system to German (Gerrmany) as >>>>> described on InstallSite. If still not working: Interesting is the >>>>> output of step 3. Please post it here. Be aware that you work >>>>> exactly on the generated packages and no dirty ones where possibly >>>>> something went wrong... >>>>> >>>>> Regarding Arabic: Think of only localize text and not "RTL" the UIs. >>>>> One of our arabic speaking guys told me that these people are used >>>>> of not well RTL modified UIs. If you still want to do so: Get an >>>>> installShield demo (they offer well RTL layout, think only the >>>>> graphic on the start dlg and finish dialog is turned) and modify >>>>> the WiX dialogs in WiX sources folder src\ext\UIExtension\wixlib >>>>> (approx >>>>> 25 - >>>>> 30 dialogs and User Interface "sequences"). Think it should be >>>>> possible here as well to embed a transform for the modifications >>>>> even here this transform then contains a completely modified UI. >>>>> But as never done also expect some issues when transforming with a >>>>> torch generated transform for arabic (not sure whether -t Language >>>>> is enough). >>>>> >>>>> As already stated think of using a bootstrapper for the language >>>>> transform application (e.g. dotnetinstaller) instead of the >>>>> embedded approach. >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> Tobias >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2011/3/17 Francisco Gabriel Malbrán <fgmalb...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> Thanks Michael. I've tried your solution as well but still no results. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can any body please attach an empty/demo version of your >>>>>> multilanguage msi to test it out in my computer? This way I would >>>>>> be able to detect if the problem is in the procedure or in the >> environment. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>>> >>>>>> Francisco >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/3/17 Michael Tissington <michael_tissing...@ciqual.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> "$(ProjectDir)$(OutDir)1040.mst" >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Francisco Gabriel Malbrán >>>>>> Licenciado en Ciencias de la Computación Online CV: >>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/franciscomalbran >>>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> - >>>> - >>>> -------- >>>>>> Colocation vs. Managed Hosting >>>>>> A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your >>>>>> organization - today and in the future. >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> WiX-users mailing list >>>>>> WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - 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