On 25 Oct 2012 15:23, "Jasper St. Pierre" <jstpie...@mecheye.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> ... snip ...
>
> > Yes, everyone agrees on that. But games are going to keep changing
> > resolution no matter what you write on this mailing list, so the
> > question is whether there's anything that can be done to make the
> > users less angry when it happens. (And they will also be angry if
> > their games don't support changing resolutions.) Certainly KWin is
> > potentially in a better place to see that manual layouts and things
> > don't get broken than a random SDL program is... if you can't preserve
> > manual layouts, then who should the game developers be talking to
> > instead?
>
> I don't see how this proposal helps, then: either games have to be
> updated to care about the new _NET_WM_STATE value, or they have to be
> updated to not set the user's resolution.

Right, I was unclear. What I meant is that games are going to keep
including this feature via whatever means are necessary. So realistically
our options are either to give them a less-broken means of doing this, or
else the status quo.

-n
On 25 Oct 2012 15:23, "Jasper St. Pierre" <jstpie...@mecheye.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> ... snip ...
>
> > Yes, everyone agrees on that. But games are going to keep changing
> > resolution no matter what you write on this mailing list, so the
> > question is whether there's anything that can be done to make the
> > users less angry when it happens. (And they will also be angry if
> > their games don't support changing resolutions.) Certainly KWin is
> > potentially in a better place to see that manual layouts and things
> > don't get broken than a random SDL program is... if you can't preserve
> > manual layouts, then who should the game developers be talking to
> > instead?
>
> I don't see how this proposal helps, then: either games have to be
> updated to care about the new _NET_WM_STATE value, or they have to be
> updated to not set the user's resolution.
>
> > -n
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>
> --
>   Jasper
>
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