Hi Ed, thanks for your feedback! Actually there is nothing for me to suggest, as all has been said already.
Maybe the only thing which needs to be added to my IMHO self explaining former remarks about the Liquid Lemur desktop is the affirmation that this is mainly a matter of my very own personal preference. An empty desktop is not just void, it actually offers lots of space. Just as i dislike to have to read a book in a crowded public place or to work at a desk covered with all kinds of stuff leaving no room for my own work requirements, i prefer an almost empty Linux desktop with no visual distractions. It helps tremenduously to concentrate if there is nothing around which needs to be actively ignored. If you would download one of the ISO images provided via a torrent file available at rumbero.org/wmlive and try it out on any suitable computer or virtualization application, you would easily understand what i mean without the need to waste any more words on my behalf. Liquid Lemur is fine, but it is for a much different audience than the one i try to serve. I care much more about "Form follows funtion", and this is actually the main reason why i keep using WMaker since all these years. Instead of investing any time into visual enhancements, i put much more emphasis on a more useful choice of applications, with a strong focus on system administration interests. Any desktop is pointless if it doesn't primarily serve the tasks which it is supposed to run. Any such desktop environment should not be a means in itself, but should rather go out of the way and leave the area to the users' needs. In the meantime, there have already been a few more version updates of WMLive and the web site has been updated accordingly. I keep running the bittorrent client to provide the ISO images for download, but as the logs have shown so far, nobody seems to have bothered yet to at least only download the torrent file. Thanks Paul On 02/01/2012 05:40 PM, Ed Snyder wrote: > Hi Paul (All), > > I haven't been on the list lately, dealing with some family issues. > Anyway, as the creator of Liquid Lemur, I was curious what it was you > didn't like about the visuals...in particular. I do try to listen to > people's suggestions. :) > > Due to the family issues, I had to hand over Lemur to the other devs for > now. They are keeping it going, but are saving the Window Maker version > for me. :) > > I should be back at it in a couple of weeks, So, any suggestions on how > to make it better would be great. > > Thanks! > Ed > > P.S. Apologies if this is top posted...replying from the library. > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Paul Seelig <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Martin, > > To tell the truth, personally i consider the default configuration to be > highly attractive, and it even almost matches my personal desktop. I > prefer my work environment to be simple, clean, straightforward and > almost empty. Actually i dislike too much eye candy, and my focus is > defintely more on the functional side of things. > > Check out http://liquidlemur.com/lforum/showthread.php?tid=78 for > pointers like these here: > > http://www.jessanderson.org/wmthemes > http://www.mumblelina.com/index.php?themes=1 > http://www.cs.mun.ca/~gstarkes/wmaker/themes > http://www.gozer.org/window_maker/themes/ > > There are lots of possibilities to improve the eye candy aspect, just > like the Liquid Lemur WMaker Live CD has proven. I downloaded the > current RC1 of the Liquid Lemur WMaker edition today from > www.liquidlemur.com/cms/downloads > <http://www.liquidlemur.com/cms/downloads> and while it is defintely > very well > done technical wise, i didn't really like this visual "right in your > face" overstatement. > > Actually i wanted to avoid this at all cost, because for me such > superficial enhancements are just wasting time without any functional > benefit. Form follows function. ;) > > Yes, the nice GTK2-Step theme doesn't work anymore with GTK3 based > applications, and unfortunately i haven't found any suitable GTK3-Step > equivalent yet. I prefer this theme due to its clear and simple look. > > Thanks > Paul > > On 01/30/2012 11:27 PM, Martin Dietze wrote: > > On Mon, January 30, 2012, Paul Seelig wrote: > > > >> with the newly released wmaker-0.95.1 with it's now fully functional > >> debianization, i have updated my WMLive web page with a new build > of a > >> live WindowMaker system based on Ubuntu 11.04. On > > > > Very good initiative! > > It seems like you've configured Firefox/Thunderbird to use the > > GtkStep2 theme? Just out of interest, I noticed that this theme > > does no longer work with the more recent GTK-based applications > > (gtk3 if I'm not too mistaken) - has anyone cared to create a > > STEP-like theme for the current gtk version? > > > > One last thing - I think you can make the default configuration > > a bit more attractive if you preconfigure a nice background > > image, also (I haven't seen the CD yet) if it's bundled with > > some nice themes to choose from. Just an idea - why not ask > > people to send in their personal configurations - themes and > > dock (WMState) and add the best ones to the distro, so that > > users can choose from them? > > > > Cheers, > > > > M'bert -- To unsubscribe, send mail to [email protected].
