begin  quoting Leonardo Menezes Vaz as of Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 07:16:16PM -0200:
> > Can someone explain to me the obsession with having a systray?
> 
> Thanks for asking Stewart. Lots of application in current
> distributions use this feature and having support to system tray can
> make difference. Trust me.

So? I'm not advocating that WindowMaker be systray-hostile, only
wondering at the folks who want it built-in.  Do these applications
refuse to behave correctly without a systray?
 
> > I honestly don't get why so many people are so enamoured of the idea.
> 
> It's not about people, but the reasons I explained above.

I disagree.

There are systrays available for those who want them. The push to make 'em
part of the default distribution or to build 'em in is a judgement call by
*people*.

> > What am I missing?
> 
> Things have changed a lot in last 10 years in Desktop land Steven.

Who's Steven?

> Initiatives like FreeDesktop brought standardization to the big mess
> and since then lots of nice ideas and innovation happened.

Mm-hmm. I try all the alternative window managers and desktop environments
I can get my hands on when I install a new work Linux machine every couple
of years.  I am routinely unimpressed, especially by the new-user experience.

Your implication is frankly insulting.

Eventually I go back to WindowMaker, 'cuz I have to get some work done, and
it's good at the eye-candy *and* good at staying the heck out of my way.

If the systray were to be somehow *useful*, I might start using it, but I
don't see any way that it makes my life any better.  I was hoping that one
of the advocates could quietly explain HOW it makes *their* life better,
as I truly do seek understanding, if not enlightenment.

-- 
Stewart Stremler
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