Let me raise my voice as the guy who made the Debian Linux spinoff "Window Maker Live" (aka wmlive) available, which uses Window Maker as default graphical interface, and who was forced to base some design decisions based only(!) on the theming shortcomings of WINGs.
On 11/04/2013 06:00 PM, Carlos R. Mafra wrote: > wmaker successfully reproduces the look and feel of NeXTSTEP and most > applications don't. But that's how things are. > The way things are, at least for GTK2 based applications someone was able to create a NeXTish theme, and this allowed wmlive to have a more or less homogeneous look and (almost) feel. Luckily this also applies to some extend to some QT based applications, for which a compatibility theming layer to GTK2 exists. All things GTK3 had to be excluded in wmlive simply because there is still no way to make it adapt to this limited NeXTish looks of WINGs. The other way round would have simply been impossible, as WINGs does not offer anything providing the depth of theming capabilities other toolkits provide. In fact, in order to have wmlive look minimally consistent, everything needed to be adapted to and to revolve around WINGs. This is so 90's! > WINGs looks like it was supposed to look, so that's why it is hardcoded. > I certainly would love to have these shortcomings of WINGs to be amended, and for this i do welcome Doug's patches. Thanks Doug! Personally i don't like Window Maker because it looks and feels like NeXTSTEP or because to some degree even shares some common ground with GNUstep (which i don't care about anymore in context of real life BTW). No, i like it because of its window manager capabilities, and i would definitely prefer it to be able to also acquire some other looks. Yes, this is cosmetics, but then again it is also cosmetics limiting Window Maker and WINGs to just one outdated boring look. So if there is a possibility to get rid of this visual monotony, i am all in for it. Furthermore, in context of the usual standard desktop mess of Linux, wmaker is well advised to offer as much compatibility as possible, and this defintely also includes theming capabilities. There are a multitude of standard applications out there who have stood the test of time and simply define desktop standards which wmaker/WINGs has no choice to ignore anymore. I for one would love to see Window Maker finally enter the 21st century instead of eternally staying stuck in last century's 90's. Thanks again, Doug! -- To unsubscribe, send mail to wmaker-dev-unsubscr...@lists.windowmaker.org.
