On 11/11/2013 01:09 PM, Carlos R. Mafra wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 at  9:32:04 +0300, Yury Tarasievich wrote:
...
So I'd say there's an *urgent* need for some kind of contribution
rejection procedure. Something like following: (a) Carlos (or
anybody) with his PM's hat on has the first (immediate) say on what
is *not* going in *right now*. (b) However, there also must be an
(almost immediate) request for comments going into the list,
formal-like. (c) If the request gathers no evidence supporting the
innovation, everything stays as it was. (d) Otherwise, steps are
taken etc.
...
So in this case, despite the patch being OK I felt
the need to stop the idea. Keep the WINGs widgets as simple as
...
But given the reaction, I am "forced" to accept the patch. There
has even been a suggestion to fork wmaker! And perhaps I'm being
too conservative, so it will be OK in the end. But in any case,
if the repository was only mine the patch would not go in.

So the above situation corresponds to your steps a) - d) above.

Not exactly, as I see it. There was no formal rejection (was there?), no issuing the "formal" RRFC (Rejection Request for Comments), and so the ensuing discussion was mostly heated by hurt feelings in the unclear context.

I believe it's just this lack of a bit of formal procedure which made way for the unpleasantness. (And of course the (c) step must generate some definitely positive support, not lazy lack of opposition).

***

Having said that, the code bloat is bad, but the look artificially left back in the "20 years ago" epoch might be not-so-good, too. About the only *visual* feature of the *WINGs* I like are those clever checkboxes; radiobuttons are not bad. Overall, the *visual* impression isn't so much of "aged product", as of unpolished, rough-from-the-workbench thing. BTW, the option of modifying the standard "colors" themselves would be of no relevance here, without more extensive rethink (of layout, geometry, proportions etc.).

-Yury


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