On 7/25/2011 1:16 PM, Leif Johansson wrote:
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On 07/25/2011 06:59 PM, Paul C. Bryan wrote:
I now find myself hoping this is not the beginning someone making a case
for ASN.1 encoding in WOES.

For my edification, can someone comment on how CMS would likely be
referenced in WOES? Would it likely be a normative reference (i.e. key
transport/wrapping, as it is in xmlenc-core), or otherwise would it
probably be just informational?

We seem to be bike-shedding on the words "based on" in the charter.
Perhaps it helps if we say something to the effect that WOES draws
upon experience from CMS and XML-dsig/enc and leave it at that.


1. There is considerably more than a bikeshedding difference between

a) normative dependence on a protocol, where the new exercise is merely a syntactic re-coding"

vs, for example

b) "take the ideas from the existing work and use them as a basis for writing a new protocol."

2. There is a significant constituency in the current topic that are using language that sounds very much like option a) above.

That is, I believe there is a meaningful split between an established security community view for this topic, versus the views of the json-oriented folk.

What is perhaps missing is a clear and shared understanding of the exact uses that are intended for the current work.

For example "must be able to encode it in a URL" is a rather meaningful and substantial constraint.

d/

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  Dave Crocker
  Brandenburg InternetWorking
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