The AD did push back on the dates ;)

Part of the process to get buy-in is progressing the charter. It'll go out for two weeks internally to the IETF and then probably another two externally (W3C, etc.). I'll make sure to bring it up with the W3C liaison (shocked if he's not on this list). We (Stpehen and I) are also keeping the Apps ADs in the loop (both Pete and Peter were at the WOES/JOSE session). There's also other IETF areas monitoring what's going on.

As to the deliverable dates, I think we should try to be somewhat aggressive. I'd rather not build in 'wait time.' Getting something through the IESG by March (as I suggested) is going to be a challenge.

spt

On 8/4/11 2:18 PM, Jeremy Laurenson wrote:
Agree - I would think the ADs would agree and push back.

On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

Is the object here to arrive at an RFC or to arrive at a standard with a broad 
base of support in the web services apps community?

If the latter the I suggest much more time so as to have the ability to get buy 
in from the relevant community.


Sent from my angry birds pad

On Aug 2, 2011, at 19:13, Paul Hoffman<[email protected]>  wrote:

Here is a proposal for the charter based on the discussion in the BoF last week 
and later discussion with Sean Turner. Comments, praise, scorn, etc., are 
welcome.

--Paul and Richard

Javascript Object Signing and Encrypting (jose)
===============================================

Background
----------

Javascript Object Notation (JSON) is a text format for the serialization of 
structured data described in RFC 4627. The JSON format is often used for 
serializing and transmitting structured data over a network connection. With 
the increased usage of JSON in protocols in the IETF and elsewhere, there is 
now a desire to offer security services such as encryption and digital 
signatures for data that is being carried in JSON format.

Different proposals for providing such security services have already been 
defined and implemented. This Working Group's task is to standardize two 
security services, encrypting and digitally signing, in order to increase 
interoperability of security features between protocols that use JSON.  The 
Working Group will base its work on well-known message security primitives 
(e.g., CMS), and will solicit input from the rest of the IETF Security Area to 
be sure that the security functionality in the JSON format is correct.

This group is chartered to work on four documents:

1) A Standards Track document specifying how to apply a JSON-structured digital signature 
to data, including (but not limited to) JSON data structures. "Digital 
signature" is defined as a hash operation followed by a signature operation using 
asymmetric keys.

2) A Standards Track document specifying how to apply a JSON-structured 
encryption to data, including (but not limited to) JSON data structures.

3) A Standards Track document specifying how to encode public keys as 
JSON-structured objects.

4) A Standards Track document specifying mandatory-to-implement algorithms for 
the other three documents.

The working group may decide to address one or more of these goals in a single 
document, in which case the concrete milestones for signing/encryption below 
will both be satisfied by the single document.

Goals and Milestones
--------------------

Aug 2011    Submit JSON object signing document as a WG item.

Aug 2011    Submit JSON object encryption document as a WG item.

Aug 2011    Submit JSON key format document as a WG item.

Aug 2011    Submit JSON algoritm document as a WG item.

Jan 2012    Start Working Group Last Call on JSON object signing document.

Jan 2012    Start Working Group Last Call on JSON object encryption document.

Jan 2012    Start Working Group Last Call on JSON key format document.

Jan 2012    Start Working Group Last Call on JSON algorithm document.

Feb 2012    Submit JSON object signing document to IESG for consideration as
Standards Track document.

Feb 2012    Submit JSON object encryption document to IESG for consideration
as Standards Track document.

Feb 2012    Submit JSON key format document to IESG for consideration
as Standards Track document.

Feb 2012    Submit JSON algorithm document to IESG for consideration
as Standards Track document.

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