On 9/27/07, Lloyd Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Travis Snoozy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:33:19 -0700, "Lloyd Budd" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In theory I'm the test-lead-like person, but in reality I'm stretched > really thin. > Hopefully, as WordPress continues to mature and the number of people > participating increases, we all have a better opportunity to deal with > things from a higher level. > > People are always putting forward opportunities to collaborate. There > has been a few threads related to test automation, but few responses > that actually present how they have done something with the work. > > Lend more than our voices, > -- > Lloyd Budd | Digital Entomologist | | Skype:foolswisdom > WordPress.com | WordPress.org | Automattic.com >
To get those increasing numbers, though, Lloyd, many who want to -- and do -- but are often shot down by folks who have "been around longer" (perhaps publicly, perhaps realistically, perhaps both), and sometimes are shot down so hard they flame out all the way down and into the ground before finally burning out. Sadly, it's happened too often. In other cases, some have actually left the WP community to venture off in other directions, sometimes, if you read their blogs, because of "Founder's Syndrome" within WP. How far does it spread? I can't say, but many times ideas are brought up, one person shoots it down, and after that, all discussion -- if not seemingly forbidden -- is entirely negative and the person reminded that the idea was previously nixed. A community, at least healthy, thriving, vibrant communities, rely on conversation, discussion, and ideas. It's that funky forward-thinking thing. That "outside the box" thing. Just because one person -- regardless of who they are or what "rank" or "title" they hold -- says, "I don't like it" -- does that mean the entire community should "not" like the idea, as well? No. That's not community. That's some of what I've seen expressed here, in this thread, and because of some past experiences, but also because of many I speak with in real-life, in IM, via email, on the phone, or, sometimes, simply follow by reading their blogs, it's happened many times in the past. Not everyone comes off expressing themselves eloquently. I can, if I choose. I often don't choose to do so, for a variety of reasons, and chief among them, I'm too blasted old to care if someone doesn't like how I word something. If they don't like it, well good. Close your eyes. If you do like it, great, get me more coffee. But to broaden the community, the "community" that exists must be welcoming. Where does that begin? Or does that responsibility -- the responsibility of ensuring others accept you and your thoughts -- rest on HOW new folks, regardless of experience -- express their thoughts or word their findings? On that note, it's dinner time here in Philadelphia. That means my coffee mug is being refilled. Y'all have a great one. Even if you don't agree with me. -- -dave PGP Public Keys: http://scoop0901.net/PGP/PgPkEyS.htm Verify email with digital signatures, or encrypt for privacy while offering job security to crackers at NSA, DHS, and TIA! | Dave Jackson Philadelphia, PA http://blog.scoop0901.net | | "A journalist's job is to comfort the afflicted and afflict | | the comfortable." -Finley Peter Dunne (1867-1936) | (c)2007 by Dave Jackson (Scoop0901). All rights reserved. _______________________________________________ wp-testers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
