Can you recommend some readings that you particularly
like in Theravada? That would be much appreciated!
Sheila

--- Thomas savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Could it be that Mahayanists are more relaxed about
> this than Theravadins?  My Buddhist training is
> Theravada.  Zen is Mahayana so who knows?  I
> remember the Tibetan teacher Chogyam Trungpa was
> quite a drinker, also.
>
> "John M. Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hmmm,
> some of those Zen monks would/will enjoy sake from
> time to time, and then there's what they called "tea
> head" obtained from drinking lots of cha.
>
> John
>
> At 01:38 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote:
>   I take it that you are referring to Christian,
> thus Catholic, monks here.  Didn't they used to make
> wine in monasteries in France?  It seems unlikely to
> me that Buddhist monks anywhere in the world would
> make either winre or fudge as this might be
> encouraging intoxication, something which Buddhist
> monks take a precept to abstain from. Still the
> apparent reference to mindful breathing at the end
> of your prose poem makes me wonder. This could be a
> completely imaginative work, in which case it
> doesn't matter.  Nevertheless, since there are
> really monks in the so-called real world, regardless
> of how sheltered they may or may not live from that
> world, it causes one to wonder.
>
> Sheila Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>    Monks are making it to sell. I first wrote see,
> then
>
>    frist. What is the matter with t! his morning
> except the
>
>    voltage of unkindness streaming through the net.
> My
>
>    fingers on the keyboard pick up messages no one
>
>    believes were sent. Dear, Hannah,how deeply did
> you
>
>    absorb? The body chemistry becomes pseudonymous
> with
>
>    fibers in the hundreds in the thousands gradually
>
>    self-multiplied. My cha is gen mai. I know the
> word
>
>    for tea from JMB. When monks have finished making
>
>    sweets they may return to cells. When monks
> return to
>
>    cells they pray. The swift rays of the sun are
>
>    measured at a speed greater than crying. When
> monks
>
>    come together they enlist the services to form
> some
>
>    thing to sell so they can live quietly at prayer.
> I am
>
>    on the threshold of ordering five books on the
> subject
>
>    of sustaining which in the vernacular means
> making
>
>    something last beyond its essence possibly.
> Speaking
>
>    of which, a group of ad execs were brought
> together to
>
>    find something they might do with a failed heart
> drug.
>
>    So they looked at what is now! Viagra and they
> asked
>
>    what it could do. Then they invented terminology
> and
>
>    sold that terminology. Sow's ear propped up on a
>
>    throne. Publication might mean telling everyone
> what
>
>    you will not accept. The priesthood now will now
>
>    appear immune to love of self. Would someone
> kindly
>
>    pass the fudge? Formed with full intention,
> breathing
>
>    in and breathing out. Both individually and in
>
>    community.
>
>
>
>    Sheila E. Murphy
>
>
>
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