G'day Russ, Thanks a lot for the help.
I've done what you suggest and it's looking much better. I don't understand why in IE6 the bars at the top don't touch, while they do in NN7 and Opera7. If yo have a look at http://afpwebworks.com/beach/index.cfm in IE, you can see the top grey bar doesn't touch the red pattern, while the bottom one does. But in NN and Opera they touch, how they're supposed to. (The images in the footer are done with an include from the rest of the site so that's why they're done differently.) Cheers Mike Kear -----Original Message----- From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 8:54 AM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] How to centre a group of floated images Mike, Thanks for the wrap on floatutorial. :) The layout you have done has a number of errors including missing alt tags and background images applied to the <td> element. I used to do these myself before I saw the light. Now CSS can do it for you more easily. This layout is very simple, so why not take the opportunity to move it to full CSS instead of tables. Here is an example - the containers are styled quickly to match up with your basic layout: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/floatcenter.htm Two notes: 1. The centering of the yellow container will not work in Win/IE5 or IE5.5. I donšt think this is a major deal as it degrades gracefully. However, if you really wanted to, you could add more containers to work around the problem. 2. The system I have used is to build the layout in simple divs with strong colour. The aim would be to do it fast like this and then test across a wide variety of browsers - before you get stuck into the fine detail of styling the content of the page. This method is what I will be talking about at the next Sydney WSG meeting - "Coloured boxes - the process of building a CSS layout" HTH Russ ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *****************************************************