> The whole point is to be relative in your units so the layout design
> can look the same across different resolutions.

Yes - I know the reasons behind it.  And I spend way too much time
thinking about it now and dont see any clear pathways to a sensible
outcome.  Hence why I am bringing it to a wider group.


It is the current implementations of it all that I am critical of.  And
until my images scale flawlessly as well (because someone with a sight
impairment is going to have as much trouble seeing my images as they are
my text) it all seems a little bit of a "hack" to me.  It makes more sense
to produce my design so it works and then encourage the use of the
accessibility options in an OS (like magnifier software, screen readers,
etc.) than to have a browser botch up the job of scaling my design.

Flash isn't CSS and XHTML and it isn't a browser.  And you don't have to
"think" in relative font sizes when you create a Flash movie.  It just
sizes itself - because the whole environment is vector based.  To achieve
that in a HTML type environment we really should all move to SVG or even
VML (or some other more palatable version of vector based markup).

In any case, relative font sizes are not "vector" based - only the
technology to scale the fonts themselves is (assuming the fonts being used
are vector based fonts - e.g. True Type, etc.).

I have been running around on a number of sites - sizing them up and down
- and am disappointed by what I see.

Can anyone point me to some sites that maintain a sensible CSS/XHTML
design (with mutiple columns - both fixed and fluid - and images and
banners and footers) that scale correctly when sized in a Browser using
the browsers scaling and dont go all wonky?

I don't want to rip off their designs - I want to absorb their techniques.
 If I am going to do this thing with scalable, relative fonts, etc. I want
to do it properly.  At the moment I feel that all the efforts I am
expending are really being wasted.

I love all the kewl techniques that I see on sites like CSS Zen Garden,
Max Design, Man In Blue, etc.  But in many cases "function" loses out over
"form" (e.g. Zen Garden is wonderful, but the sites I have to build need
more function than form, they are full of figures and tables and graphs,
and that is where I find the brick wall gets more solid).


Gary Menzel
Web Development Manager
IT Operations Brisbane -+- ABN AMRO Morgans Limited
Level 29, 123 Eagle Street BRISBANE QLD 4000
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