<quote>(the web is not the (Internet)<quote> You are CORRECT in that, the Internet is a part of the web. However, RESPECTFULLY, you sir are completely INCORRECT in the claim that SPAM is NOT on topic. To say so would be like claiming the tail is not part of the cat and therefore should be ignored.
To define - let us go to look up the terms. The "Internet" is the largest internet and is composed of backbone networks, mid-level networks and stub networks. (source: dictionary.com) The World Wide Web, commonly referred to as the "web", primarily in the form of html and http is the most commonly known aspect of the Internet. However, the World Wide Web consists of a wide array of protocols and communications standards that range far beyond http and include EVERYTHING from internet to FTP, Gopher, Telnet, news as well as via the http protocol to transfer hypertext documents. (source: dictionary.com ) e-mail - A system for sending and receiving messages electronically over a computer network, as between personal computers. And also: A message or messages sent or received by such a system. (source: dictionary.com ) The group is the WEB Standards Group - correct? "Web" equals WORLD WIDE WEB. And the definitions are above - The group is NOT called the Internet Standards Group, nor is it called the http standards group, By the Group's own name, it leads itself to a broad category covering accessibility and many many other issues regarding use and design of the Internet as well as FTP, Telnet and so on. As we are dealing in semantics here, (which is the norm as CSS is very semantic is it not?), the proper statement should have been that SPAM is not a preferred topic rather than an OFF-TOPIC matter) Off topic would incorrectly imply that SPAM is not e-mail and e-mail is not part of the Web which is a HUGE network. Just like coding in CSS and HTML, it's all a matter of definition (You can't use an <img> tag to add properties to text! And by strict definition the subject is on topic. I however will digress and accept that it is not a preferred topic of discussion. Brian Grimmer theGrafixGuy http://www.thegrafixguy.com 503-887-4943 925-226-4085 (fax) This reply to your initial e-mail is sent in accordance with the US CAN-SPAM Law in effect 01/01/2004. Removal requests can be sent to this address and will be honored and respected. -----Original Message----- From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Standards, SPAM, and accessibility - three hot topics all in one No, the various anti-spam laws, solutions etc aren't a W3c standard and spam problems/solutions aren't solely web based (the web is not the Internet). The discussion on spam and the relevant governing laws of a country (which don't apply outside of that country) should be directed at a dedicated anti-spam list, the lawmakers or an anti-spam support group, rather than here. So, yes, the spam topic raised is closed on this list. HTH James >And relating to the previous subject being active, yes this in on-topic but >perhaps waver on the edge in regards to the SPAM issue if one does not >consider the new laws in effect as a sort of web standard for communication. >I apologize in advance for this. > > ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ***************************************************** ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *****************************************************
