Hi,
Lee would recommend a comprehensive accessibility text. I've scoured Amazon to the point of red eye, and have found nothing but how to pass Bobby. This text should include captioning of Quicktime, and other dynamic media considerations.
C
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, at 05:47 AM, Lee Roberts wrote:
Jesse,
I'll agree it makes them think about it for about ... 10 seconds. Then they
go and start using those automated evaluators and mess it all up. I've used
every evaluator there is and none come as close to meeting my experience as
I would like.
You can pass those automated test very easily and then totally ignore some
very important elements. One accessibility presentation I went to had a
company representative look like a fool when he was showing how JAWS worked
with their pages. The designer passed all the automated tests, but failed
to lineate the table correctly so JAWS was jumping all around the screen
reading things out of order. Yep, Bobby said it passed - Bobby lied too.
Yes, much of the Assistive Technology relies upon Microsoft. Didn't you
realize that Microsoft doesn't allow anyone access to their core functions?
Oh, that's last millennia's news.
We should fire the federal judges that ruled in favor of Microsoft. They
just gave too much power to Microsoft and I'm not talking their
anti-competitive attitudes. I'm talking embedding their browser further
into their operating systems. It's going to get to the point that their
browser will enable any web site to take control of the computer again ...
just like when we used to cause hard drive formats.
Jesse, please tell me how Canada falls under Section 508. I realize Canada
falls under our telecommunications acts, but I wasn't aware that Canada had
to comply with Section 508. As I understood it, Canada's rules, although
not totally accepted, required bi-lingual sites and even more accessibility
than Section 508 requires. Please correct me if I'm wrong; I like to keep
up with how other countries are handling the issues.
Thanks, Lee Roberts
-----Original Message----- From: J Rodgers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] 508??
Have you looked at the other assistive technologies available?
Yes I work closely with our Office for Persons with Disabilities, even
presented at their Assistive Technology Fair last year. This year I will as
well and sounds like it will be even bigger than last year. There are some
very cool technologies out there.
England and the other countries requiring accessible web sites state 508 did not meet their requirements for accessible web sites. So, how can we state that Section 508 is the end-all solution when other governments are saying it isn't enough?
Not saying it was an end-all, just saying it was a decent place to start. At
the very least it is forcing a lot of software developers and web designers
to think accessible design.
they do.AT developers have the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines they have to follow. There is at least one person from the JAWS team on the working group.
Since JAWS uses Internet Explorer and the Microsoft Accessibility
Agent, I would hope that Microsoft starts supporting standards better thanAnd that they stop with their proprietary stuff. Netscape has begun to support OBJECT so we don't need to use EMBED/NOEMBED any longer unless you want to support earlier versions. Oh my, do we want to support Netscape 4.x? I don't and don't even come close to trying anylonger.
That is likely the biggest problem with Assistive technology, it relies on
other over priced bloat ware that is unstable at the best of times and
refuses to follow any standards properly. Why not move to Moz? Why build
Assistive technologies for Linux where you have more control? Oh that is
rhetorical.
One thing I did notice with a lot of Assistive Technologies is that they
rely heavily on Microsoft. I think that is a shame.
Jesse
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