Hi

I have a feeling that the inconsistencies in valid xhtml markup for embedding (<object>) Flash were from general badness in the ActiveX used by Flash Player (somebody mentioned a corrupt OCX file on the Flash Satay discussion at ALA) and Internet Explorer having it's own version of the object tag.
There are a few links in the archive of this list worth checking out.


The version i have at webqs.com works for all the browsers and players I could lay my hands on.

Cheers
James

David McKinnon wrote:
Sorry Neerav,
That works for me in IE6/Win and Safari 1.0.3, but not IE5.2/Mac, Opera
7.5(Win and Mac), Firefox 0.9.3 (Win and Mac) or Camino 0.8.

The A List Apart article and Ian Hix's solution both aim at solving problems
with the <object> element. However, I understand from Designing With Web Standards and the discussion
of the A List Apart Flash Satay article
(http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/discuss/) that some browsers
IE/Win 5, 5.5 and 6, Konquerer/Linux and Mozilla/Linux sometimes fail to
correctly handle the <object> element.
Apparently it works most of the time but sometimes people just get a blank
space where the Flash should be.
Hixie's solution seems to be the most elegant, although Mark Lynch casts
some doubt on this here http://markl.f2o.org/experiments/flashvars/


Any further developments?
David



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The following is valid XHTML transitional, and seems to work fine in the
browsers I've checked (IE6, Mozilla, Opera)

<object
codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.ca
b#version=6,0,0,0"


type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
data="http://www.example.com/flash.swf";
width="640" height="480">
<param name="movie" value="http://www.example.com/flash.swf"; /> </object>

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David McKinnon wrote:

Does anyone know if anyone has managed to produce a valid and reliable way to embed Flash objects yet?
I'm noting Nick Gleitzman's reply to Seona Bellamy yesterday [RE: [WSG] Can someone reproduce these issues for me please?] suggesting Flash Satay at A List Apart.


My understanding is that the safest way is still to use Macromedia's invalid default method:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/tn4150.html
This is taking into account Jeffrey Zeldman's comments in Designing With Web Standards about Drew McLellan's Flash Satay method http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/
And noting Mark Lynch's comments on Flashvars using either the Satay meithod or Ian Hixie's
http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1081798064&count=1


Anyone know any better?

David McKinnon
www.alucida.com

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