Interesting, I posted a query (a Flash forum) about the Flash Satay method not always displaying on Opera. Sometimes it required a page refresh in order to display. I was told that it was a problem with my copy of the browser. Which didn't ring true at the time either.
I learnt to live with the effect as they were only single-page fun sites. http://www.2kool2.com/2kool2/ http://www.2kool2.com/senuik/ I'd be very interested in any solutions anyone comes up with. mike 2k:)2 <marquee><blink> mike foskett </marquee></blink> http://www.webSemantics.co.uk [almost complete] -----Original Message----- From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2004 08:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Valid Flash state of play Hi I have a feeling that the inconsistencies in valid xhtml markup for embedding (<object>) Flash were from general badness in the ActiveX used by Flash Player (somebody mentioned a corrupt OCX file on the Flash Satay discussion at ALA) and Internet Explorer having it's own version of the object tag. There are a few links in the archive of this list worth checking out. The version i have at webqs.com works for all the browsers and players I could lay my hands on. Cheers James David McKinnon wrote: > Sorry Neerav, > That works for me in IE6/Win and Safari 1.0.3, but not IE5.2/Mac, > Opera 7.5(Win and Mac), Firefox 0.9.3 (Win and Mac) or Camino 0.8. > > The A List Apart article and Ian Hix's solution both aim at solving > problems with the <object> element. > However, I understand from Designing With Web Standards and the discussion > of the A List Apart Flash Satay article > (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/discuss/) that some browsers > IE/Win 5, 5.5 and 6, Konquerer/Linux and Mozilla/Linux sometimes fail to > correctly handle the <object> element. > Apparently it works most of the time but sometimes people just get a blank > space where the Flash should be. > Hixie's solution seems to be the most elegant, although Mark Lynch casts > some doubt on this here http://markl.f2o.org/experiments/flashvars/ > > Any further developments? > David > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Neerav > Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [WSG] Valid Flash state of play > > The following is valid XHTML transitional, and seems to work fine in > the browsers I've checked (IE6, Mozilla, Opera) > > <object > codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swfl > ash.ca > b#version=6,0,0,0" > > type="application/x-shockwave-flash" > data="http://www.example.com/flash.swf" > width="640" height="480"> > <param name="movie" value="http://www.example.com/flash.swf" /> > </object> > > -- > Neerav Bhatt > http://www.bhatt.id.au > Web Development & IT consultancy > Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 > > http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts > http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav > > David McKinnon wrote: > >>Does anyone know if anyone has managed to produce a valid and reliable >>way to embed Flash objects yet? >>I'm noting Nick Gleitzman's reply to Seona Bellamy yesterday [RE: >>[WSG] Can someone reproduce these issues for me please?] suggesting >>Flash Satay at A List Apart. >> >>My understanding is that the safest way is still to use Macromedia's >>invalid default method: >>http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/tn4150.html >>This is taking into account Jeffrey Zeldman's comments in Designing >>With Web Standards about Drew McLellan's Flash Satay method >>http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ >>And noting Mark Lynch's comments on Flashvars using either the Satay >>meithod or Ian Hixie's >>http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1081798064&count=1 >> >>Anyone know any better? >> >>David McKinnon >>www.alucida.com > > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, > accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September > 30 and October 1, 2004 > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > > > > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ > Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge > To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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