OK so someone pointed out that <pre> would be better for poetry and I agree but with some reservations. <pre> does a nice job of handling the visual side of things but from a screen reader's point of view, how do they handle a line break through <pre> as opposed to <br />. Do they pause or say "new line"? I think, when all is said and done though that <pre> does seem better for poetry.

Anyway, no else has come forward with any examples of when to use <br /> apart from in an address. This is a pretty smart group - if we can't find a decent use for it outside this then maybe we shoud get this formallised. In the same way that <fieldset> elements shouldn't be placed outside a <form> element, let's tell the W3C to specify that line breaks should not be placed outside of the <address> tag.

At least this will end the debate once and for all about Line Breaks.

PS: in terms of the <address> element itself - check out what's happening over here!
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/02/xhtml-rdf.html#div154379976

R  :o)



----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick H. Lauke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil <br>


Hope Stewart wrote:

I was present for Tantek's talk and I thought he said <address> was used
only for information about the author

Which holds true if the <address> is used to mark up:

- the contact information for the current site (e.g. if it's a corporate site and you're giving the company's contact details) - if it's something like a directory listing where each member gets their own little page, the contact details for that particular member

So, the thread starter should give some info on what he's trying to mark up, exactly.

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