Standalone versions of IE 4 and IE 5 are available at http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone. These will work even if you have a later version of IE installed.
cheers, Geoff. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rhys Burnie > Sent: Friday, 14 October 2005 1:52 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5 > > > I am interested in the current opinion of the relevance of css hacks > for explorer 4.0.x & 5.0.x specifically in regards to the Box Model > Hack. > I understand the problem associated with the box model in ie4 & 5 but > have begun to question the need for hacks in your css for these > browser versions. > > In an attempt to design for versions of ie < 6.0 I attempted to > download versions 5.0 and 4.0. > Fisrtly ie4 is no longer on the microsift explorer download page and > has to be sourced elsewhere. Secondly if you have a later version of > ie on your system it wont install an earlier version anyway. > This leads me to think that anyone using ie 4 or 5 have either had to > make an effort to remove a later vesion of ie to install the earlier > version or has not updated their browser. And in order to actually > test in ie 4 o r 5 I'll need to install it on another machine. > > I know this is sounding like a lame excuse for not designing for < ie6 > but at what point do we stop disigning for minority users who (given > the fact that microsoft loves to remind to update its products) have > most likely chosen to not update or dont have internet access and > therefor wont be viewing your site anyway. > > I have a great interset in making degradeable cross platform/browser > sites but dont want to get so bogged down in hacks that code becomes > disorderly and problemetic, especially when ie7 is released. > > Does anyone else have an opinion on this? > I realise its an old issue and remember having discussions with fellow > students at Uni a few years ago. But with the implementations in ie6 > and the ones to come in ie7 perhaps its time to finally stop worrying > about ie 4/5 > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
