Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
Does it even have that relationship? Does it matter to anybody other than some twonk from merchandising whether the blue sweater comes before the red dress? If a list is to be used (and I don't disagree with the use of a list in this case) then it seems to me that an unordered list should be sufficient - unless the aforementioned twonk insists that it's *really* important that yellow clothes come before green ones.
Which can all be determined by source order, which also intrinsically carries this relationship ("this came before that in the source code").
Although it might be important from an accessibility perspective that an unsighted user be able to say "the third one on that page" without having to count the preceding list items - hmm, now that's something to think about..
Not quite sure how they'd say "the third one" without actually having counted, though...am I missing something? Or do you mean in situations where a sighted user and a blind user discuss the page? If that's the concern, then *any* CSS that visually changes position of things on screen would be a problem (just thinking about sighted users saying "the X that comes before Y" not realising that X was absolutely positioned above Y, for instance)...which I'd say is an edge case anyway.
Generalising this whole case, I think that the suggestion here is that tables can be used if the author wants to define a spatial relationship between the various images (above, below, to the left, to the right). Here I'd argue that tables are still the wrong technology, and maybe plain vanilla HTML in general is the wrong choice to convey this, as it lacks the appropriately rich semantics to convey both content *and* spatial relationship.
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