www.cmsmatrix.org has a good comparrison of cms'

also one of the more popular open source cms systems based on php i do believe 
is mambo. however i could be wrong (the technology its based on).



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> From: "Kevin Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:39:29 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits
> 
> I find it very disappointing that very few clients really appreciate the
> amount of hard work that goes into designing and building a site (in my
> experience).  This particular client wants to save a few bucks by
> maintaining the site herself.  She doesn't seem to realize that her time is
> valuable as well and better used when devoted to her strengths.  I think
> most of us know that we need to call a plumber or electrician as they are
> "experts" in their fields, and rightly so.  Nuff said...
> 
> Now that I have a realization that I need to incorporate some sort of a CMS
> solution, can anyone lead me to resources that may help to teach me the
> ropes?  I am leaning towards PHP, as I am somewhat familiar with the
> language. Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin.
> 
> On 7/10/07, Matthew Ohlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Kevin Ross wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am trying to find a solution to a nagging problem.  Most of my
> > > client's sites are not very dynamic and I update them as the client
> > > requires.  Because the updates are very infrequent, I have not been
> > > charging very much for this ongoing support.  However, I have a new
> > > client who wants to maintain her own site (one I designed for her).
> > > She is pretty good on the computer, but doesn't really know her way
> > > around HTML or CSS.  I am agonizing over how to "pass the torch" over
> > > to her.  The site is not extremely complex, but is more than a little
> > > task for someone who does not design web sites.
> > >
> > > I am wondering for advice on this situation and I am also wondering
> > > how others handle ongoing updates after the initial design has been
> > > implemented.
> > >
> > > I am also wondering if a CMS system would, in any way, be a solution
> > > to a situation like this.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Be careful if you don't use a CMS system.  I donated a web site for a
> > local organization and it was a beauty...since I no longer had the time
> > to devote to updating I turned it over to a so called 'web designer' in
> > the community (at the recommendation of the executive director).  Sadly,
> > he has basically ruined my site because he has no idea what he is doing
> > and has no concept of web standards--or style for that matter.
> >
> > It is a real shame that so many people charge for and design web sites
> > that don't follow any sort of standards.
> >
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> >
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> From: "Jennifer Siegfried" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:44:08 -0600
> Subject: Re: WSG Digest
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> If I understand correctly, you're referring to what's called image
> replaced text.
> 
> Personally, I use the "Phark Revisited" method (down a bit in the
> page): http://www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/
> 
> Images should never be used for text in the HTML, that is correct.
> 
> I worked up a small example a couple of weeks ago demonstrating some
> methods I use: 
> http://www.jsiegfried.com/projects/irrollovers/ir-rollovers.html
> 
> Hope I've correctly understood your question. And if I have, hope I've helped.
> 
> Cheers!
> Jen
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> > From: "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:25:35 -0700
> > Subject: Images as content vs. images as backgrounds
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> > Hello list,
> >
> > I've been talking to someone who thinks that a perfectly semantic
> > website has absolutely no <img> tags used for text in images. Could
> > anyone help me find some articles about using img tags vs. using
> > background images for navigation links or textual content where images
> > are being used?
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