Is this the Web Standards Group or the We Spam Group?
Christopher Skene E-Business Officer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Land & Water Australia knowledge for managing Australian landscapes Land & Water Australia graphic Level 1, 86 Northbourne Ave, Braddon ACT GPO Box 2182, Canberra ACT 2601 phone +61 2 6263 6067 fax +61 2 6263 6099 mobile 0422 969 899 www.lwa.gov.au This email is confidential. If received in error please delete and advise Land & Water Australia by return email. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2007 10:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: WSG Digest ********************************************************************* WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST ********************************************************************* Due to an upgrade of SmarterMail, digests seem to have had a problem. We are working on it. ********************************************************************* From: "Breton Slivka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:21:33 +1000 Subject: Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites On 7/12/07, Hassan Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > , you are wrong about graphic design. > > ..but seriously, I have *never* seen an ad for a "Graphic Designer" > (or worse, mislabeled "Web Designer") that looked for anything but > Photoshop/Illustrator, possibly Flash, proficiency. Nothing about > BA/IA/UX/ID. Zip. Zed. > > For the vast majority of such positions, it's all about "purty". :-) > > Seriously. I do know exceptions -- Darrell Sano, who I worked with at > Sun, comes to mind -- but they're few and far between. Far too far. That is an error in the Ads you've seen, and in the Advertiser's understanding of Graphic Design being just as flawed as yours. This is not an error in my definition of Graphic Design. I will not dispute that many self proclaimed "Graphic Designers" hold the same flawed view. This is a serious problem, which may be too big for me to singlehandedly handle, but a problem nonethless. To give an analogy, one could easily advertise for an accountant who is proficient in the use of Quicken and TurboTax. However this would be a flawed advertisement, as proficiency in those programs does not a qualified accountant make. Nor does proficiency in photoshop make a qualified Graphic Designer, nor would proficiency in Dreamweaver make a qualified Web Developer, nor Proficiency in MySQL a qualified Database Designer. Indeed, a common view of Surgeons may be that all they do is cut people up and shift things around, discounting any knowledge they may have of human anatomy, or medical science. Now imagine if there were a bunch of surgeons running around getting hired who had the same flawed perspective. It would be very difficult for a proper surgeon to gain any sense of credibility wouldn't it? That problem is real in both Web Development, and Graphic Design. Given that it's something both fields have in common, I would expect us to be able to team up to fight such perceptions, but sadly this is not the case for practitioners in either profession, as they each suffer from the misperceptions of the other. It makes me sad. ************************************************************** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************** _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by Land & Water Australia using MessageLabs Email Security System. _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by Land & Water Australia using MessageLabs Email Security System. ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
