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From: "Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:34:04 -0400
Subject: Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits
Most publishing systems have the ability to add an edit link to pages.
In expression engine and movable type I use that for clients to
make it
easier.
When logged in and viewing their site when they see a page that they
want to change/update, click on edit, change and save.
Attached a jpg to demo what happens when a client is logged in and
clicks on edit from a page..
This can be setup so that they can only see/edit the content and
nothing
else shows, preventing wrecking the templates etc.
Hope an attachment is ok rules wise...
bruce P
bkdesign
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Moore
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits
dotnetnuke has some nice functionality, but out of the box is an
accessibility nightmare.
On 7/11/07, Paul Collins < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Funny you should send that one Kevin, I am literally just scoping
around for a similar solution to the site I have just built. I was
recommended these two aparrently free CMS solutions by another
client.
http://www.dotnetnuke.com/
http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/
I am only just taking a look now so not sure how standards
compliant
they are. The last site I built used a combination of
Contribute and
Wordpress, not so pretty and kind of limiting. Depends on what
they
want to update and the type of content I guess.
I would like to hear of any other free open source CMS solutions
there
are out there? preferably one using PHP, but open to suggestions.
Cheers
Paul
On 10/07/07, Kevin Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I find it very disappointing that very few clients really
appreciate the
amount of hard work that goes into designing and building a site
(in my
experience). This particular client wants to save a few bucks by
maintaining the site herself. She doesn't seem to realize that
her time is
valuable as well and better used when devoted to her strengths. I
think
most of us know that we need to call a plumber or electrician as
they are
"experts" in their fields, and rightly so. Nuff said...
Now that I have a realization that I need to incorporate some sort
of a CMS
solution, can anyone lead me to resources that may help to teach
me the
ropes? I am leaning towards PHP, as I am somewhat familiar with
the
language. Thanks.
Regards,
Kevin.
On 7/10/07, Matthew Ohlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin Ross wrote:
Hi all,
I am trying to find a solution to a nagging problem. Most of
my
client's sites are not very dynamic and I update them as the
client
requires. Because the updates are very infrequent, I have not
been
charging very much for this ongoing support. However, I have
a new
client who wants to maintain her own site (one I designed for
her).
She is pretty good on the computer, but doesn't really know
her way
around HTML or CSS. I am agonizing over how to "pass the
torch" over
to her. The site is not extremely complex, but is more than a
little
task for someone who does not design web sites.
I am wondering for advice on this situation and I am also
wondering
how others handle ongoing updates after the initial design has
been
implemented.
I am also wondering if a CMS system would, in any way, be a
solution
to a situation like this.
Thanks.
Be careful if you don't use a CMS system. I donated a web site
for a
local organization and it was a beauty...since I no longer had
the time
to devote to updating I turned it over to a so called 'web
designer' in
the community (at the recommendation of the executive director).
Sadly,
he has basically ruined my site because he has no idea what he
is doing
and has no concept of web standards--or style for that matter.
It is a real shame that so many people charge for and design web
sites
that don't follow any sort of standards.
Matthew
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From: "Greg Hacke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:31:22 -0400
Subject: RE: WSG Digest
I would avoid CMSMadeSimple
It's not a bad CMS but _everything_ is after-market and it is very
difficult
to maintain as standards compliant.
I use WebGUI (www.webgui.org) right now for CMS work. It maintains
compliance quite well - although its server requirements are a bit
higher.
Greg Hacke
Idle Hands Press :: idlehandspress.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] :: IM greghacke
+1.614.388.9106 :: Skype greghacke
There is no right.
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Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2007 0:19
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From: "Paul Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:17:03 +0100
Subject: Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits
Funny you should send that one Kevin, I am literally just scoping
around for
a similar solution to the site I have just built. I was recommended
these
two aparrently free CMS solutions by another client.
http://www.dotnetnuke.com/
http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/
I am only just taking a look now so not sure how standards
compliant they
are. The last site I built used a combination of Contribute and
Wordpress,
not so pretty and kind of limiting. Depends on what they want to
update and
the type of content I guess.
I would like to hear of any other free open source CMS solutions
there are
out there? preferably one using PHP, but open to suggestions.
Cheers
Paul
On 10/07/07, Kevin Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I find it very disappointing that very few clients really appreciate
the amount of hard work that goes into designing and building a site
(in my experience). This particular client wants to save a few bucks
by maintaining the site herself. She doesn't seem to realize that
her
time is valuable as well and better used when devoted to her
strengths. I think most of us know that we need to call a plumber or
electrician as they are "experts" in their fields, and rightly
so. Nuff
said...
Now that I have a realization that I need to incorporate some sort of
a CMS solution, can anyone lead me to resources that may help to
teach
me the ropes? I am leaning towards PHP, as I am somewhat familiar
with the language. Thanks.
Regards,
Kevin.
On 7/10/07, Matthew Ohlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin Ross wrote:
Hi all,
I am trying to find a solution to a nagging problem. Most of my
client's sites are not very dynamic and I update them as the
client requires. Because the updates are very infrequent, I have
not been charging very much for this ongoing support. However, I
have a new client who wants to maintain her own site (one I
designed
for her).
She is pretty good on the computer, but doesn't really know her
way around HTML or CSS. I am agonizing over how to "pass the
torch" over to her. The site is not extremely complex, but is
more than a little task for someone who does not design web sites.
I am wondering for advice on this situation and I am also
wondering how others handle ongoing updates after the initial
design has been implemented.
I am also wondering if a CMS system would, in any way, be a
solution to a situation like this.
Thanks.
Be careful if you don't use a CMS system. I donated a web site for
a local organization and it was a beauty...since I no longer had the
time to devote to updating I turned it over to a so called 'web
designer' in the community (at the recommendation of the executive
director). Sadly, he has basically ruined my site because he has no
idea what he is doing and has no concept of web standards--or
style for
that matter.
It is a real shame that so many people charge for and design web
sites that don't follow any sort of standards.
Matthew
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