Oops.  My response was posted "after" Philip Kiff gave some web standards
links.  Thanks.

Joyce Evans

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [WSG] To target or not

I'm all about "web conventions."  I didn't realize having a blank target
didn't follow web standards.  Is that documented somewhere?

Joyce Evans

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:45 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] To target or not

My suggestion is simple: let it be the content and presentation that 
keeps people on your site, not gimmickry.  Most smart web surfers use 
Firefox or Opera or a lesser browser that is nonetheless tabbed.  If I 
want to stay on a page, I open links from that page in new background 
tabs while I continue to read the page.

I find it oh-so-frustrating to have a site designer decide how my 
browsing should work, breaking web conventions (note, web conventions 
exist for a reason... they're what people expect - I recommend people 
think long and hard before they break them).

If I click on a link on their site I expect it to open in my current 
window - if it insists on opening a new window, it pisses me off, 
because that's not how I work.  I see that approach as indicating a 
designer still in a very IE5.5-6 mindset: primitive.  Sites that try to 
manipulate me don't pique my interest, they put me right off (and, 
needless to say, I don't go back).

Dave

Joyce Evans wrote:
> I always thought it was a good idea to open links to other websites in a
> separate window, so you don't lose the visitor.  If the visitor clicks on
a
> link on your website and it does not open into a separate window, the
> visitor may stay in the other website for awhile, going to, say, 20
> different pages.  Most likely, he's not going to click on the back button
20
> times to get back to your website, so you've lost the visitor or potential
> customer.  If the link opens up into a separate window, the visitor cannot
> click on the back button, so he'll need to click on the exit (X) button,
and
> voila, he's back in your website, where you want him to be.
> 
> Joyce Evans
> Niche Marketing
> www.nichemktghouston.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Matthew Ohlman
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:21 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] To target or not
> 
> Hello List,
> 
> I was curious what others opinions were on this issue...
> 
> Since W3C doesn't allow the target attribute in XHTML Strict, which do 
> you think is better?  Having the window opening up with JavaScript or 
> just keeping the page in the same window like W3C wants. 
> 
> I assume the reason for not allowing the target attribute is for 
> accessibility--because screen readers can not control pop-ups.  
> Therefore it seems logical to me to keep it in the same window--even if 
> it is an external site, etc.
> 
> What does everyone think?
> 
> Matthew

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