Personally and from a usability I feel pdf's belong in the office, not on the web. As a definite download link and have a choice between viewing it as html or a pdf download. I hate seeing pdf becoming more popular.

Bruce P
bkdesign

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:57 PM
Subject: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not


I'm all about "web conventions."  I didn't realize having a blank target
didn't follow web standards.  Is that documented somewhere?


This one still bothers me ...

The alternatives I've seen invariably require javascript and some of those javascript methods give the user less choice and are also not well suited for user-generated content (often created with wysiwyg editors)

I'm seeing a very annoying trend lately where quite a few sites are forcing pdf's to open in a new browser window with javascript. I do not think it is acceptable to force people to wait over a minute with a locked up browser for a slow plugin to start without warning! - at least give them the option to right-click and download it for offline viewing!
(or better don't use pdf - use html! )

Government-related sites seem to be the worst offenders - They seem to have almost everything as pdf

Until they fix browsers to not lock up while loading slow plugins or they fix acrobat reader to start more quickly I'll continue to regard sites that force people to view pdfs in a browser as being about on about the same level as those nasty porn sites with endless chains of popup windows.









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