Nikita The Spider The Spider wrote:
> On 10/18/07, Anders Nawroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Nikita The Spider The Spider skrev:
>>> You might be interested in an experiment I ran that compared a few
>>> techniques for protecting one's email address from harvesting bots.
>>> The short answer: entity references worked very well
>> I think the time span of your study is to short.
>>
>> I have used the method you used for "äcklig", with mixed decimal and
>> hexadecimal numeric entities. In about a year there was no spam, but
>> somewhere at 1.5 years it started a little, and after 2 years there
>> where 100+ spam/day.
> 
> Hej Anders,
> That's very interesting, thanks for letting me know!
> 
>> So I think you just push the problem forward, which could be fine in
>> some cases. But when a entity-decoding spam harvester finds the
>> email-address, this will get listed in the same databases as all other
>> emailaddresses. The more traffic your site has, the less difference the
>> encoding will make.
> 
> I agree. I assumed (wrongly) that the 200+ days of the study was long
> enough to get found by any harvesters that bothered to decode
> entities. I'm not surprised to learn, however, that once the address
> was exposed that it received an ever-increasing amount of spam. This
> is consistent with my intuition and also what I observed.
> 
>> I think the htaccess-trick linked to by Dejan Kozina looks more
>> promising. I have used this method, but abandoned it because of that
>> some browser wouldn't send the mailto: address to the email client. But
>> this was a few years ago, so this could possibly have changed.
> 
> This method looks promising to me too but I haven't had a chance to
> test it yet.
> 
Hi all,

As a matter of preference, I generally try to eliminate all mailto:
links on any site I've been asked to work on.  In place, I use a contact
form, usually with a password protected admin interface where the site
owner, with creds, can add to, edit or remove what entities are listed
in the drop-down for 'to'.  Then using some php, I generate the mail,
scripted on the server side to avoid open publication of users' email
addresses. I understand that not everyone wants or is able to do
server-side scripting, but for me it seems to be the best solution.

It's far more work than adding mailto:, certainly, but I find that it's
working well and while I don't charge more for that, my clients
generally see it as a value-added service.  Just my drop in the bucket :)

Philip, I truly loved the article/research results on the obfuscation
techniques.  Very very informative...thank you.

The .htaccess method is quite viable, imnsho, but does require a web
server which follows the .htaccess/.htpasswd paradigm.  I may well do
some testing to see how the re-write directives affect accessibility (if
at all).

Interesting topic, this.  Thank you all for some really informative
insights.


Kind regards,
~Ray



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