Honestly, I think he just wants a very specific look... He also thinks it looks "neater then using plain txt"

I'll talk to him about it and let him know about the possible down falls with the whole thing... After I read up on image maps that is :) I'm assuming they rely on some sort of client side script? But I haven't googled yet so feel free to ignore the question :)


On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

You're right about a client like that being a pain in the rear.

I had a client who wanted customers to contact them via email,
but didn't want to use a contact form and didn't want them to just
use a link to email from the website.  He was dead-set against forms
even though they were the answer.  He was so hard to work with, I
eventually cut him loose.  (Glad I got 50% of the cost up front! :o)

I imagine this "image-map" client was just after a certain look and
had been told by someone that an image map was the answer and wasn't
open to other solutions which are better and provide the same results.

Rick

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Hi Rick,

If any client were to tell me how to code their website I would
probably tell them to go elsewhere. The client is more than likely
going to be a pain throughout the project and then also when making
payment.

Obviously this is within reason - design aspects - of course they
decide. When it comes to the coding, the client most certainly does
not know best! If they want it to be of a high quality and well
optimised then I will make it using the best of my abilities. There's
no reason that they should specify how it is coded, unless they're a
developer and they need it formatted in a specific way.

This must not be a normal customer anyway if they know about image
maps. I'm interested to know why they requested it in the first place..

Quoting Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Darren...

I find your comment, "I would most certainly not allow the use of
an image map", interesting.

What would you do, as is Jason's situation, if your "client demands it"?

You can always turn down the work, but would you simply because a client
wants to do something that you don't like?

Rick

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Hi Jason,

I would most certainly not allow the use of an image map. They are
only useful for defining polygon or circular areas on maps (or
similar) as links. They are not good for a sites primary navigation.

For navigation that is consisting of an image I would create an
unordered list:

<ul id="nav">
<li class="img1">link1</li>
<li class="img2">link1</li>
<li class="img3">link1</li>
</ul>

Set the main img background on ul#nav to go behind all the links then set the individual link graphics on each list item anchor - li.img? a

Make the anchors display:block and you can then define height and
width of the link.

Then when images are turned off you are still left with a fully
accessible menu.

Darren Lovelock
Munkyonline.co.uk

Quoting Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Good Morning everyone!

I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a
picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links.

I am wondering, how would I go about convincing my client that this isn't the best way to do it? I personally think that some nice text links, styled properly with CSS would look just as good if not better
then image maps.

Oh, and to put it into context, it's a picture rating site so I don't know that Blind users are going to be too much of a concern for him
since they can't see what the main part of the site is for.

Any info I could get about this would be wonderful!

Thanks everyone!





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