Hi, Im new here not sure whats going on but as far as web performance goes a handy little online tool is http://www.smushit.com/ ( It goes beyond Photoshop customisation)
Heather _____ De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Andrew Maben Envoyé : mardi 25 novembre 2008 17:54 À : wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Objet : Re: [WSG] your best practise for CSS sprites for elements that have no height declared Please, could I ask you to take this "discussion" off-list if you want to continue. It's really degenerated to an unresolvable cycle of "I'm right", "No, I'M right"... When it just comes down to "Use the best available solution for the problem at hand" All compressed image file formats have strengths and weaknesses. Andrew On Nov 25, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Brett Patterson wrote: First of all, No I am not! Second I have tried out differences. Notice the difference in file sizes. Thirdly, I did not say that png did not support 8-bit, nowhere does it say that, it does however say that GIF only supports a maximum of 256 colors. Fourthly, Todd your argument is off subject, because neither MIke nor me ever mentioned it looking best, although I would have to agree, PNG most certainly does look best, depending on the image. And fifthly, Mike, sorry, but no, without using a PNGGauntlet or whatever, I am not. All I simply stated is that gif files have to be smaller, (probably should have said before) without using pnggauntlet. And I say without, because anyone else may not have, or know where to get it. Well...and sixthly, I use PNGs just as much you, but there are a lot of times when PNGs will not cut the job, and GIFs are, again, majority of the time smaller and better. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Foskett, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry Brett, you're wrong. > > The png format will handle three levels of bit-depth including 8-bit which > is the same as the gif format. > > The references you state are somewhat outdated and don't consider the > different methods of compression that a png will handle natively. > > > > I suggest you try a few comparisons out yourself. > > They don't always work out smaller but most often they do. Seconded. You can make 8 bit PNGs with as little as 8 colors or as many as 256. Just try "Save for Web & Devices" in Photoshop CS3. I don't even bother with GIFs anymore, the 8-bit PNGs come out smaller almost every time. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* -- Brett P. ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
