@Dani Well observed. I am using WordPress presets here. Not had much time 'proving' my accessibility skills on Semantix Blog, however feel free to find such issues on Flexewebs.com.
@Peter Mount I am not saying 'Accessibility does not matter!', I was asking a question rather. I don't have an argument to say not providing accessible solution for target audience is ever good. However, you lot may have a great site for a desktop user, but I (not a disabled user) will be looking at it via BlackBerry and it has a kak user experience (poor usability). Verdict: fail (in my view). Accessibility = good, usability = 0. Overall, fail. @Matthew Pennell You are confused with the 'broken wrist' issue. If I have a broken (right) wrist (I am right handed), I won't be able to use a mouse (with my right hand). I also won't be able to use keyboard with that right hand. My choice is to use the mouse or keyboard with the left hand. So your 'keyboard accessibility' example is highly flawed. What happens in practice (I can think of a circumstance where a colleague had a broken wrist at work) is that people take time off until they recover, since their work performance working with one hand is usually not good enough to be at work (think of a Project Manager typing a long report with one hand - it's not going to happen on time essentially). So in practice what happens is that (as a practical example) a Large PLC I worked for wanted to enable a 10 minute pension processing time per claim, as opposed to 30-40 minutes per claim. Even able bodied people had a problem meeting this target let alone someone with a broken wrist or who was permanently disable. In practice what happens in commercial environments is that people get assigned to roles which they can fulfil considering the disability they have. You might see this as discrimination, and I do too to a great extent, but it's the reality we live in. I think that legislation in UK also states that if an employee deems the person not to be able to do the job within expected targets, they have the right to refuse him/her work. It's just the way it is. Now for us to say that a solution costing £26M to develop, should have another £1M invested into accessibility (testing, implementing, etc.) is a bit of a far fetched argument to be honest. The way the given PLC looks at it is that 'we just won't employ disabled people for this role as they will not be able to meet our targets anyway - we will sign-post them to another role they can do'. Also Matthew can you show me some of the (best) work you have done in the past please? What's your personal website address? You seem to be very quick to judge me and my abilities, but your arguments sound pretty weak as they are not rooted in reality I have observed in the last 10 years working with various PLCs, local and Central Government in UK, number of small sites as well as coding my own web apps in spare time. Thanks, Jason On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Matthew Pennell <matthewpenn...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Jason Grant <ja...@flexewebs.com> wrote: >> >> @Thierry >> I don't see how breaking a wrist has much to do with accessibility? > > Broken wrist = inability to use a mouse. If your site/intranet/app is not > keyboard-accessible, how is that person supposed to use it? > > Now you've exposed your naivety, I suggest you let the good people of this > thread educate you so you can create better work in the future. :) > > - Matthew > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > ******************************************************************* -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *******************************************************************
