On 18 Aug 2010, at 21:17, Prisca schmarsow wrote:
Hi ;)
as the subject has expanded to HTML5 - use it or not yet - I thought
I might throw in a sample site.
This is a new site for a webdesign course I run and teach, recently
put live, setup in WordPress, and using some HTML5.
(I will not teach next year's students HTML5 yet - but will
introduce it in the last term, according to the latest spec)
I would not say the site is pure HTML5 in the strictest sense just
incorporating suitable HTML5 tags in the theme, as appropriate (I
hope). It still uses a few standard HTML tags and is a bit of a
hybrid, I suppose. I aim to keep working on improving the source and
tweak it all as time goes on ~ and/or specs change.
For now, I hope it meets with your approval and I would be curious
to hear your thoughts - if anyone is interested in having a look: http://webeyedea.info
The HTML5 validator throws up 2 errors, 1 for a span and 1 for a
paragraph used in the <hgroup> . I did find sources which approve of
a <p> being used inside the <hgroup>. So I will leave that as it is
for now.
Any thoughts and feedback would be most welcome :)
hgroup is as far as I can tell a hack to hide a subtitle or such
marked up as a heading element (h1–h6) from the sectioning algorithm
used to calculate the structure of your document .
“The hgroup element is typically used to group a set of one or more h1-
h6 elements — to group, for example, a section title and an
accompanying subtitle.”
Thus I think you only use the hgroup if you are using another heading
such as an h2 for your subtitle, otherwise it isn't really needed and
you can avoid using the hgroup all together. I could be
misinterpreting it though.
Prisca
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:45 PM, tee <weblis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:06 AM, jeffrey morin wrote:
It's a good starter book to introduce you to HTML5. It's not a
reference manual just a good starter book. You still should read the
W3C spec and get the other book Introduction to HTML5.
I will disagree with Jason Grant that it's too early to start using
HTML5. Because HTML5 supports the older tags you can start using it
today by simply using <!doctype html> that's it and you're site is
now
considered html5, and if you're site validated for XHTML or HTML
prior
it should validate for HTML5.
Months ago I tried converting a theme to HTML5, but had to give it
up for the following reason:
Ran into a number of validation errors with obsolete tags which are
no longer supported by HTML5. Though they were all fixable but it
gave me a second thought perhaps it's not such a good idea to be
progressive with newer markup technology for sites that need to go
live today, tomorrow, next year and that I have no control, no way
to know how the site owners going to use their sites and how many
plugins they will be using which have terribly markup in the
template files. I can't remember exactly how many errors I
encountered except this one that had me a change of heart because I
am not certain of the impact on the WCAG 2.0 success criteria and
how today's Screen readers handle the HTML5.
W3C validator flagged Summary attribute as obsolete. Quote: "The
summary attribute is obsolete. Consider describing the structure of
complex tables in <caption> or in a paragraph and pointing to the
paragraph using the aria-describedby attribute." So this is more a
validation error than accessibility issue right? TotalValidator
doesn't find it wrong. So I assume it's not an accessibility issue,
or TotalValidator got it wrong.
Last time I checked, browsers are buggy rendering Caption element,
not sure if this is still the case but I certainly don't want to go
find a hack or invent a hack to make caption element render
correctly in all browsers. Aria-described attribute maybe a way to
go but I don't know little about it.
tee
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