" You wouldn't put up with a web page that forced you to read a short message and hit the delete key before seeing the rest of the page."
That's exactly what the new European cookie law is going to force you to do. -----Original Message----- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Jim Croft Sent: 19 March 2012 03:10 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] WSG - Time for a re-think on WSG. yes - it is no big deal as an individual act, but in aggregate contributes to the advere side of the S:N ratio. The fact that it is demonstrably totally unnecessary makes it all the more irritating. Yes, I could write a filter to catch these messages, but this is the 21st century, there are email transfer standards, we have 24 hr wireless pizza delivery, and I shouldn't have to. You wouldn't put up with a web page that forced you to read a short message and hit the delete key before seeing the rest of the page. Chances are you would probably not go there more than twice (the second time to confirm, 'are you for real?!'). If people are already at borderline S:N, 'a very small amount of time' is it all it is going to take to push them over the 'unsubscribe' edge and seek their web standards jollies elsewhere. Also, it is the professionalism thing... jim On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Jon Reece <jon.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > Personally, I don't mind deleting the few emails (relatively) that are > out-of-office replies. If I did, I would probably just set up a filter > since I'm using Gmail (and I'm pretty sure most popular email clients > support advanced filters as well). I find that the very small amount > of time it takes me to select the email, and then select Delete, is > really nothing to complain about. > > Just my $0.02 > > - Jon > > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Jim Croft <jim.cr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It's not really a web standards issue, but the current acceptable >> standard for email list servers it to trap 'out of office' messages >> and /dev/null them with extreme prejudice. >> >> If the current list software can not do this, perhap it too should be >> /dev/null'd. >> >> I am subscribed to dozens of email lists and this is the only one >> that relays out of office spam. Not a good look for a group promoting >> quality and standards in communication. >> >> jim >> >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:52 AM, <ewen.h...@health.vic.gov.au> wrote: >> > >> > <rant> >> > >> > After a while, we humans decide that small annoyances need to end >> > and after hearing from an individual I don't know that "I am off >> > sick today" on the WSG group, I have decided enough is enough. What >> > Russ and his band of compatriots did back 15 years or so ago to >> > create a group and spread the word has been fantastic howeever it >> > needs a revival. >> > >> > The vast majority of us are techie, web developers who know a >> > thing or two about great websites that are accessible. Isn't that >> > what WSG is crying out for? Gopher and Archie have sadly gone and >> > so should the current flavour of WSG. >> > >> > WSG could be reincarnated into a thing of beauty and a site to >> > behold beacuse with HTML5, a sprinkling of accessibility knowledge >> > and a bunch of us hacking away, we could show the world that sites >> > can be accessible and uber-cool at the same time. >> > >> > Over to you... >> > >> > </rant> >> > >> > PS Hope you're feeling better >> > >> > Ewen Hill >> > Project Manager. >> > >> > ewen.h...@health.vic.gov.au________________________________________ >> > _________________________________________ >> > >> > This email contains confidential information intended only for the >> > person named above and may be subject to legal privilege. If you >> > are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying or use of >> > this information is prohibited. 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