Peter

Perhaps another mode worth trying is WSQ by ZL1BPU: http://www.qsl.net/zl1bpu/SOFT/WSQ.htm

It is intended for LF/MF, so doppler effects on higher frequencies may present issues. I've tested this mode on 630m with copy still good down to -24 to -25 dB.

73 Eric NO3M

On 04/23/2014 10:10 AM, Peter R. Burri wrote:

Hi Edson

Thanks for your answer. Yes I have already considered and even tested other digimodes (I am into digimodes for years and do nearly nothing else in ham radio, hi hi). I agree with you in that Olivia is by far the strongest and most reliable **ragchew mode** available today working with relatively weak signals. Therefore Olivia is my favourite digimode for most applications. Nevertheless when it comes to **really** weak signals, longest distances or low power equipnent/low performance antennas it lies behind JT65 by magnitudes. I have tested both modes with just a few minutes difference in time last week between HB and ZL and JT65 worked with 100% decoding while Oliva decoded only a fragment of text from time to time resulting in unreadable information. The station in ZL (a colleague of mine) engaged a simple 5 meter wire (14 MHz) held up by a fishing rod and a KX3 running on internal batteries outdoors near Auckland. We used the protocol mentioned for message transmission (every fragment confirmed by an RRR with repetition if the RRR could not be received back). Perfect copy down to 100 mW of power with just a few repetitions. I guess we won't be able find another mode (except QRSS which is somewhat uncomfortable) performing this way down to S/N of -23 dB or less. So (at least to me) it seems worth some effort to realize something like an "SMS-Sender" for hams with an underlying JT65 transport layer even if the transmission of such an "SMS" takes half an hour (I can lean back and eat a donut while transmission is in progress J)... And going there (to ZL) would take a lot more of time and money J.

73, Peter

HB9JAQ



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