Hi Jay,

On 9/20/2017 5:08 PM, Jay Hainline wrote:
Joe and all. Curious because I am not a big contester. My understanding is the 
reason for the extra coding is for producing the message sent for TX3 with both 
calls plus R Grid. If it’s a problem with extra characters involved, why can't 
you just condense the standard message to send a single call of the station you 
are working with R Grid? Wouldn’t this save the effort of having to use extra 
coding in the software for converting an odd ball grid to something that makes 
sense? Then no matter if you are in contest mode or not, everyone would see the 
same message.

Example:

Current TX3 message in contest mode:  K1JT KA9CFD R EN40

Replace TX3 message transmitted by KA9CFD:  K1JT R EN40

Rational: A CQ with one call has already been sent, and response has been 
received with both calls and a grid by the time TX3 is ready to be sent.

Yes, we could co it that way.  But...

1. The message "K1JT R EN40" is not a standard JT-style structured message. It will be transmitted as free text, but the MSK144/FT8 auto-sequencer will not process it correctly. To avoid other potential problems, it insists on finding both calls in a valid auto-sequenced message.

2. MSK144 QSOs often take place on a time-shared channel with pings from several different stations being decoded in the same 15 s interval. As many as several dozen FT8 transmissions are often decoded in a single interval. When both callsigns appear in nearly every transmission it's easy to keep track of what's going on, and who's working whom. With just one callsign in a message this is much harder -- both for those listening in and for the auto-sequencer.

        -- Joe, K1JT

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