On 02/12/2017 07:01 p.m., John Broughton wrote:

Here is a copy of our transmissions. Your call showed up as TI3/W7RI
on your CQ. The generated messages from me just had W7RI in them,
except my 73 message which had TI3/W7RI. Your responses during the QSO
showed W7RI with TI3/W7RI showing up again in your 73. I assume this is
the way it is supposed to work.

183015   8  1.0 1607 ~  CQ TI3/W7RI EJ89
171202_183030  Transmitting 21.074 MHz  FT8:  W7RI WB9VGJ DM34
171202_183100  Transmitting 21.074 MHz  FT8:  W7RI WB9VGJ DM34
183115   7  1.0 1607 ~  WB9VGJ W7RI +11
171202_183130  Transmitting 21.074 MHz  FT8:  W7RI WB9VGJ R+07
183145  10  1.0 1607 ~  WB9VGJ W7RI RRR
171202_183200  Transmitting 21.074 MHz  FT8:  TI3/W7RI 73
183215   5  1.0 1607 ~  DE TI3/W7RI 73

BTW, thanks for the QSO.

My pleasure, John.

Yes, that's the way it's supposed to work with compound call signs. And as long as everyone uses the standard messages with the current software, everything works just fine with them. The problems that arise happen when calls used are not in a standard message, or are not in a standard autosequence series. You were not answered on the first try because someone else in the pileup decoded before you did, and got worked before you were. I'm really looking forward to the "fox and hound" protocol for working pileups, which account for the bulk of stations I work. It should speed things up considerably and increase my QSO throughput considerably from what I am hearing about it. Other stations here locally I have talked to have expressed similar eagerness for it.

Technically, FT8 and similar protocols are of questionable legality here, since our local rules stipulate that the full, unabbreviated call signs of the station being worked, as well as my full, unabbreviated call sign must be transmitted at the beginning and end of a series of transmissions, and "frequently" in between - but they don't say anything about the use of abbreviated calls during a series. But since no one here has yet been cited for identification infractions using FT8 or other WSJT modes, I suspect that it's not being considered by them to be a problem, since my full call sign is transmitted during the CQ, and during the 73 sequence, and the other station's full call is transmitted by me at some point in between. Presumably, that seems to satisfy the regulator here locally, as they have not yet said anything about it. The exception would arise when I, with my compound call, will be working another station with a compound call. Haven't encountered that one yet to see how that one works out.

73,
Scott Bidstrup
TI3/W7RI






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