Hi Saku,

Thanks for the information.

So here is the section in your reference regarding what constitutes a valid QSO

1. It is recommended that a QSO (meaning communication; 2-way contact) between 
two 
     radio station operators is complete, when the 
     following exchange has been completed via 
     radio, without outside help by others: 

          a. both radio station operators have comprehended each other's call 
signs; plus 

          b. some other information (commonly 
              a report, for instance RST) has been 
              exchanged; plus 

          c. confirmations have been exchanged 
             that the other operator has received the 
             above (call sign and some other information). 
Paragraph 1c does not say that you need “confirmation of the confirmations.”  
Rather, 1c requires that confirmations be exchanged that the call sign and QSO 
information have been received.  In the example below, I confirmed receipt of 
her information in my TX3 transmission with the “R.”  She confirmed receipt of 
my information with her TX4 transmission with the “RR.”  No further 
confirmations are required.  The TX5 autosequence transmission, that I am 
proposing be deleted, is only “73,”  which is a nice pleasantry, but not a 
confirmation of anything, and slows down the QSO rate by 50%, 90 seconds per 
QSO vs. 60 seconds per QSO.
Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ


From: Saku 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 8:21 AM
To: Dave Hachadorian ; WSJT software development ; wsjt-x development Reflector 
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Faster contest sequence

Hi!

Maybe because of this. 

https://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://hf.r-e-f.org/c4_iaru_r1/10vienne/VIE10_C4_11%2520QSO%2520definition.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiEko_F4eXeAhUCBiwKHU6VBOIQFjAAegQIABAB&usg=AOvVaw0V-30uPteK4he8PsRKJC6r

"Conclusion. 1c" at the end of document is read so that confirmation of 
confirmations must be received both sides.

I.e your 73 will confirm her RR73 to be received.

-- 
Saku
OH1KH


20. marraskuuta 2018 20.54.09 GMT+02:00 Dave Hachadorian <[email protected]> 
kirjoitti: 
  I tried using the following sequence in the contest last night. 

  I SEND (TX6)  CQ RU K6LL DM22

  SHE SENDS (TX2) K6LL K7ABC 569 AZ

  I SEND (TX3)  K7ABC K6LL R 579 AZ

  SHE SENDS (TX4) K6LL K7ABC RR73

  I SEND (TX6) CQ RU K6LL DM22


  It worked OK sometimes, but several callers kept coming back for more info, 
apparently looking for that final (TX5) “73” from me.  I guess I don’t 
understand why they were looking for that. When I send TX3, the R tells her 
that I got her report.  When she sends RR73, she tells me that she got my 
report.  The QSO data has gone into the log at both ends and all is good.  Why 
can’t I start an immediate CQ, and why doesn’t the automatic sequence follow 
that pattern?  It would shorten the QSO time from 90 seconds to 60 seconds.

  Thanks.

  Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
  Yuma, AZ






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