It is interesting to note that section one begins "It is recommended that....". 

73

-Jim
NU0C


On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 09:16:22 -0700, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

>Hi Saku,

>Thanks for the information.

>So here is the section in your reference regarding what constitutes a valid QSO

>1. It is recommended that a QSO (meaning communication; 2-way contact) between 
>two 
>     radio station operators is complete, when the 
>     following exchange has been completed via 
>     radio, without outside help by others: 

>          a. both radio station operators have comprehended each other's call 
> signs; plus 

>          b. some other information (commonly 
>              a report, for instance RST) has been 
>              exchanged; plus 

>          c. confirmations have been exchanged 
>             that the other operator has received the 
>             above (call sign and some other information). 
>Paragraph 1c does not say that you need â¬Sconfirmation of the 
>confirmations.⬝  Rather, 1c requires that confirmations be exchanged that 
>the call sign and QSO information have been received.  In the example below, I 
>confirmed receipt of her information in my TX3 transmission with the â¬SR.⬝  
>She confirmed receipt of my information with her TX4 transmission with the 
>â¬SRR.⬝  No further confirmations are required.  The TX5 autosequence 
>transmission, that I am proposing be deleted, is only â¬S73,⬝  which is a 
>nice pleasantry, but not a confirmation of anything, and slows down the QSO 
>rate by 50%, 90 seconds per QSO vs. 60 seconds per QSO.
>Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
>Yuma, AZ


>From: Saku 
>Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 8:21 AM
>To: Dave Hachadorian ; WSJT software development ; wsjt-x development 
>Reflector 
>Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Faster contest sequence

>Hi!

>Maybe because of this. 

>https://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://hf.r-e-f.org/c4_iaru_r1/10vienne/VIE10_C4_11%2520QSO%2520definition.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiEko_F4eXeAhUCBiwKHU6VBOIQFjAAegQIABAB&usg=AOvVaw0V-30uPteK4he8PsRKJC6r

>"Conclusion. 1c" at the end of document is read so that confirmation of 
>confirmations must be received both sides.

>I.e your 73 will confirm her RR73 to be received.

>-- 
>Saku
>OH1KH


>20. marraskuuta 2018 20.54.09 GMT+02:00 Dave Hachadorian <[email protected]> 
>kirjoitti: 
>  I tried using the following sequence in the contest last night. 

>  I SEND (TX6)  CQ RU K6LL DM22

>  SHE SENDS (TX2) K6LL K7ABC 569 AZ

>  I SEND (TX3)  K7ABC K6LL R 579 AZ

>  SHE SENDS (TX4) K6LL K7ABC RR73

>  I SEND (TX6) CQ RU K6LL DM22


>  It worked OK sometimes, but several callers kept coming back for more info, 
> apparently looking for that final (TX5) â¬S73⬝ from me.  I guess I donâ¬"t 
> understand why they were looking for that. When I send TX3, the R tells her 
> that I got her report.  When she sends RR73, she tells me that she got my 
> report.  The QSO data has gone into the log at both ends and all is good.  
> Why canâ¬"t I start an immediate CQ, and why doesnâ¬"t the automatic sequence 
> follow that pattern?  It would shorten the QSO time from 90 seconds to 60 
> seconds.

>  Thanks.

>  Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
>  Yuma, AZ









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