As someone who actually works in the computer industry on software,
getting people to upgrade is a mess. I can't tell you about the large
customers who refuse to update to anything from this decade, but there
are tons of them.

For a data point, think of how many people (not just hams) are on Win7
(or even XP).

On Sat, 1 Dec 2018, Stephen Ireland wrote:


Serge,


I have been watching here South of the Equator and I can echo your 
observations. From most of what I am observing off groups and
spot databases most comms is intra-US. Almost all comments back here are from 
US stations.



As for your second point ? unification cannot happen when there is aggravation 
and entrenchment .... Getting anything to unify in
AR is near impossible; fights and wars always break out ... whether it be for 
leadership of representative organisations or
whether it be on unification of technology (i.e. DMR-MARC vs Brandmeister vs 
other Offshoots).

You even try to prompt for unification (as I do) and you get banned from groups 
or opinions shot down viciously.



Email/Blogs/Posts are an appalling way of gauging intent as the human side is 
lost... and is mostly misconstrued in intent ?



Frankly AR is seen in many circles as an arrogant relic of the past ... For AR 
and any of its projects (i.e. FT8) to survive,
?sucking it up? and others ?backing down from high chairs? is necessary. Middle 
ground... Listening... support even if disagreement....
but listening is critical (especially with the FT8v2 upgrade).



AR Is for People and About People in a technical, Regulated Environ. HAM = Help 
All Mankind. People first. Not ego. Not past,
resumes, awards or personal gain. Collective and well-communicated gain = the 
answer; collective and internationally inclusive
gain for NOW and for the FUTURE.



73



Steve I

VK3VM / VK3SIR



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
From: Serge Smirnoff R6YY via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 1:56:22 PM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Serge Smirnoff R6YY
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] "FT8 Roundup" mock contest 27.11.2018 0:55, Joe Taylor ?????:
> Another one-hour "practice contest" is scheduled for Saturday,
> December 1, 0200-0300 UTC


Sir Joe and colleagues, my respect,

I had enough for half an hour. It's boring. USA very weak signals
(100W?), Few stations.
WSJT-X is much better now, but I think there is still a lot of work
ahead. It would be logical to combine the efforts of the WSJT-X and JTDX
teams for the common good.

Have a good day, 73. Serge R6YY






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