Hi Don, As you said its hard to know what kind of software are they running. Mostlikely XR0Z are using classic WSJT-X because they are transmiting from 300 Hz and up... and slots are mixed with different kind of messages, with comma delimited msg in one slot. MSHV can't do that... each slot separate msg to a new caller. Question its: did they enable RX in all passband? From 200Hz to 3kHz or more... if so they can work stations even with no Hound enabled!
On MSHV reflector LZ2HV asked what kind of CQ can be sent out to know people that they are using MSHV soft... For example: CQ MULT KH7X Or similar messages what can easy recognised by so called Hounds! Best regards and RR73 9A5CW Datuma pet, 22. ožu 2019. 23:53 Don Hill AA5AU <aa...@bellsouth.net piše: > Thanks Patrick, but I don't know that what you say is true. Here is a > screenshot from XR0ZRC which shows a couple of transmissions. > > > > [image: example2.jpg] > > > > The transmission outlined in red seems like MSHV but the transmission in > blue looks like F/H? > > > > I think both are MSHV? > > > > Don AA5AU > > > > *From:* Patrick 9A5CW [mailto:pat.9a...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, March 22, 2019 2:34 PM > *To:* WSJT software development > *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] F/H vs. MSHV vs. JTDX > > > > Hi Don, > > Only MSHV have implemented multi answering protocol or so called F/H. > > JTDX doesnt have Fox mode at all, but can work/call both WSJT-X or MSHV > Foxes! > > Simple, MSHV in most cases Run a Fox in both periods in the middle of the > spectrum. Each slot send only one specific message to a caller. > > AA5AU ZL7X -12 > > 9A5CW ZL7X R-11 > > AL7KK RR73 > > .... > > Etc... so it can answer even callers calling him with report instead od > Grid. > > It doesnt have Hound frequency control as it is in WSJT-X when R-11 report > its send under 1000 Hz, you can call him wherever you want but you must be > in his RX passband. Normaly the passband is defined by his TX freq + - > 1500Hz. > > > > Short Tip ;) if u figure out that he is using MSHV call him as lower as > you can ;) 400 to 500Hz does the job very well! Dont move your TX freq > next sequence, except due big QRM. If you dont get his RR73 call him again > beacuse he probably switched to another station after 2 minutes or less > depends by what time is set into QSo timer in the program. > > > > I am normaly using JTDX and I didnt had any problems to work both WSJT-X > or MSHV dxpeds. > > > > Wish you luck ! > > 73 > > Patrik 9A5CW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Datuma pet, 22. ožu 2019. 19:25 Don AA5AU <aa...@bellsouth.net piše: > > I've not run MSHV or JTDX on FT8 yet. My preference is WSJT-X so I don't > know how to spot a DX station running one of these clones. Is there a way > to tell what the DX station is using (when using multiple streams)? > > > > Today I had a difficult time working 5T5PA. Nearly all spots said he was > running F/H and none said he wasn't (he probably is running F/H), but it > took longer than 10 minutes for me to complete the contact when it didn't > seem like it should have been that difficult. I was tempted to turn F/H off > but I didn't. I did finally get RR73 from him. > > > > Are there certainly things we can look for in determining if the DX is > running F/H? If so, what are these tell-tale signs? I'm a little frustrated > with the different approaches from FT8 clones and DXpeditions that use > them. It's starting to create a lot of confusion that seems unnecessary. It > would be nice if it was possible for WSJT-X to determine if the station is > running F/H or not and display it somehow. I think if the DX is running F/H > and the caller is not (and using WSJT-X) that the caller will get a > warning, but it seems we need something more to identify F/H and non-F/H > stations. > > > > If a DX station is running MSHV and the stations calling are running F/H, > is it possible to still make a contact? Also, vice versa, if the DX is > running F/H and the calling station is not, can a QSO be completed? > > > > Also, it would be nice if the F/H transmit timer for Hounds could be > extended longer than 2 minutes Five minutes seems more appropriate. > > > > Don AA5AU > > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >
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