.-. .-. ... as a massive stroke survivor (7/25/14).
Keep pounding away! 73 de W8NET Miles / “Gene” Secretary, Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS) 3905 Century Club - Master #47 Licensed since 1974 > On Apr 3, 2019, at 6:10 PM, Topher Petty <ai8...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Jari: > > Just keep doing what you're doing. As a fellow handicapped HAM, I say do what > you enjoy. > > I've been known to send off the occasional email to other operators who are > experiencing issues with their rigs, and I do so in as helpful of a tone as I > can... Some really try to fix it, and others could care less... > > If you know you're not a robot, then those emails mean nothing, and you can > just smile and realize that the people sending those emails have nothing > better to do than to bother you with meaningless messages about things they > don't know anything about. > > Hopefully we'll get the chance to work! > > 73 de AI8W, Chris > >> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 3:32 PM Gary Hinson <g...@isect.com> wrote: >> Hi Tom. >> >> >> >> Yes, a robot FT8 CQer that instantly jumped to the frequencies of its chosen >> callers would be a nightmare, especially if it then stayed put to call CQ. >> >> >> >> There are still quite a few [human|robot] stations who either don’t >> understand or simply disagree with split-by-default on FT8 … but month by >> month ever since FT8 was released the proportion has steadily fallen. >> Today, I suspect many of them are newcomers to FT8, used to >> simplex-by-default on the legacy modes. [Personally, I’d welcome the >> option for the auto-responder to drop simplex callers to the bottom of its >> priority list, but maybe that’s just me.] >> >> >> >> Re propagation, I believe we are at the bottom of the solar cycle about now. >> About a year ago I saw a report of the first new-cycle sunspot (with a >> different magnetic polarity?) so hopefully we’re on the up. Now’s a good >> time to get your fill of low-band DX! [In just a few years when >> propagation is better and the FT8 frequencies become crowded, >> auto-responding to the weakest callers first will make even more sense.] >> >> >> >> 73 >> Gary ZL2iFB >> >> >> >> From: Tom Ramberg via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Sent: 04 April 2019 00:38 >> To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Cc: Tom Ramberg <oh6...@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - my 2 cents >> >> >> >> Hello Jari, I’m happy to see that we’ve made contact on my little >> JW-expedition. These days it seems that SSB is closed from here, but a few >> FT8 signals are maiking it. As far as robots are concerned, I cannot do >> coding, but I wonder if the urge to have the «hold tx freq» unticked is >> robotic or human? Anyway, that is the most annoying habit of all, wether its >> a human or a robot. As soon as I’ve found a clear spot, you can bet on >> someone either calling me on the frequency, or starts calling somebody else. >> And believe me, propagation being what it is these days on 78 degrees >> northern latitude, that is more than enough to make me lose a qso. If the >> frequency was Clear, no qsy should be necessary (like in SSB), but here I >> have to jump all the time. Gary, so much for Your point no. 4. >> >> >> >> 73 de Tom from JQ78tf >> >> >> >> Sendt fra E-post for Windows 10 >> >> >> >> Fra: Gary Hinson >> Sendt: onsdag 3. april 2019 kl. 02:18 >> Til: 'WSJT software development' >> Emne: Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - my 2 cents >> >> >> >> Hi Jari, >> >> >> >> I look forward to making contact with you some day. You’re definitely not >> the only disabled DXer and, yes, you should be flattered that we can’t >> readily tell as much from the far side. Amateur radio is a great leveler! >> >> >> >> So, how might we identify fully-automated/robotic FT8 stations? That’s a >> good question. We could do with an amateur radio version of the Turing test. >> >> >> >> Here are some possible indicators of automation/robotic FT8 operation: >> >> · Operating 24x7, or at least for extended periods whereas most hams >> would need or choose to take breaks; >> >> · Operating simultaneously on several bands and/or modes – not just >> CQing on repeat but making conventional QSOs in parallel, beyond SO2R; >> >> · Always and only using auto-sequencing with standard messages – no >> friendly greetings or off-the-cuff comments and responses during or at the >> end of their QSOs, easily confused by out-sequence-of and custom messages; >> >> · Static audio frequency for all transmissions – no QSYing to avoid >> QRM; >> >> · Regularly timed band-changes e.g. moving to LF at 1700z daily, or >> exactly one hour before local sunset maybe; >> >> · Absence from DXpedition fox-n-hounds pileups – for now, at least >> (and hopefully forever!); >> >> · Frank admissions by their operators, or evasive/dubious answers if >> challenged about this. >> >> None of these is definitive, though, and all could be defeated if someone >> was determined, competent and perverse enough to do so. In fact, technical >> challenge is a driver for much of amateur radio. Mastering the technology >> is highly motivational for some, even if things lose their attraction and >> become boring once mastered. Further tranches of hobbyists love tinkering >> with technology designed by others, or building stuff, or using it for >> social reasons, or pushing back the frontiers of science, or fixing and >> maintaining stuff, or collecting it, or competing with it … or whatever. To >> my mind, it’s unreasonable and unrealistic to expect everyone else to >> conform to our individual perspectives. Tolerance and consideration towards >> others are a necessary part of the hobby since we share so much – not least >> the airwaves. >> >> 73 >> Gary ZL2iFB >> >> >> >> From: Jari A <oh2...@gmail.com> >> Sent: 03 April 2019 09:46 >> To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - my 2 cents >> >> >> >> Hi Guys, this is OH2FQV / Jari >> >> >> >> I'm handicap operator, within my physical limitations, main thing I do at my >> day time is working on 20m FT8. I dont have much else to do. I spend most of >> my hours with pc and radio. I may have 50 qso's per day, even more if theres >> extra activity on the band. >> >> >> >> I have had few emails to telling me to stop my illegal robot/ automated >> operation on FT8. >> >> >> >> The truth: I do everything manually. I dont even use JTalert to assits. >> >> I'm so ilirate, that I cant do programing, or so to automate my operations. >> >> >> >> There do are stations with automation, but I'm not one of those. >> >> >> >> I'm sorta flattered of having those comments of being machine like >> operator.... >> >> >> >> I dont know, but doing mass working with stations is fun for me, as much >> fun like at the fair to shot down disks (ducks) with crooked BB-gun. >> Shot and ding - and make guy in the booth frustrated... >> >> >> >> Please dont get upset with me, I'm just silly old man having fun - manually >> >> >> >> Very best regards, >> >> >> >> : Jari / oh2fqv >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 9:15 PM Gary McDuffie <mcduf...@ag0n.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Mar 31, 2019, at 17:02, Jim Shorney <jshor...@inebraska.com> wrote: >> > >> > The guy seems to be on the air making FT8 contacts just about every time I >> > turn it on.... >> >> Must be CO8LY (I think that’s his suffix). I see him on the air every time >> I walk into the shack. >> >> I suspect that the Antarctic station that was active yesterday was a robot. >> Why? Because from early morning to evening, his operation never changed >> that I saw. He called CQ, came back to people who apparently didn’t hear >> him, ran to the end of the watchdog, and immediately called CQ again the >> next sequence. He never moved more than 3 cycles (Hertz for the kids) all >> day. I don’t think he worked much either. I was surprised at how many >> people he replied to with an r report, and didn’t complete the QSO. He >> always ran the length of his watchdog though and immediately called CQ again >> without moving or pausing. >> >> Gary - AG0N >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
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