Gm All, 

 

Ideally, you would have a read-through of the manual and help from an 
experienced op. At the Tampa ARC, we have several rigs available, with a pdf of 
the operating manuals available on the computer at each position. With new ops, 
I like to show them the features of the radio - while the new op is the 
operator of said rig -  we would have the pdf pulled up and set to the relevant 
page. You get tactile training, visual training, and aural training as the op 
can hear the results of the changes they make to the rig. That way we avoid the 
Amateur Extra who cannot turn on a radio (yes, it happened to me; I had a new 
AE ask me how to turn on a radio). 

 

Michael, it is really not asking too much of an experienced op to read their 
manual, period. After reading, if they don’t understand – or are simply not 
sure about - what they’ve read, the puzzled op can access YouTube, send 
messages to great user groups such as this one, get on the local repeater with 
their buddies, call a friend, check with the local club, ad infinitum -  and 
get an answer; not always the best answer or even the correct one, but an 
answer nonetheless -)   ……………………… 

 

Your first step should be to “ read the ___ manual”  (you can place a rude 
adjective in front of manual if you wish)

 

73 de Lee KX4TT

 

From: Fred Price [mailto:n...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 June, 2019 08:57 
To: Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com>; WSJT software development 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

 

Michael, 

I been teaching other hams for a lot of years. I been a ham for 34+ years. 
Sorry but I disagree about reading the manual. Almost at least if not more then 
75% of questions I'm asked are in the manual and or any release notes and yes I 
read everything that the WSJT dev group puts out.

I could go on but I feel this list isn't the place to do this.

Thanks,

Fred

N2XK

 

 

On Jun 25, 2019 8:06 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > 
wrote:

It's completely reasonable (or should I say expected) that when one installs 
software that it "works".  In particular for the common operating mode.

I've found the most you can expect from an operator with 40+ years of ops is 
that they know how to turn on their rig and plug in cables.  They will know 
nothing about how to do any audio settings, bandwidth, data rates, serial 
ports, CAT control, timing requirements, never seen a waterfall, and have no 
real understanding of suppressed carrier audio.....there's lots to learn if all 
you've ever done is phone & CW.

 

It should not require a user to read (and completely understand) a  25,000-word 
manual -- that's asking and expecting far too much.

 

Try taking a teaching attitude -- if there's something you can teach the 
operator that's one of the major goals of this hobby and life in general.

 

So my idea is simply to give the user an indication when their time is 
obviously off and educate them in the hopes that they will then educate others.

 

de Mike W9MDB

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 06:52:55 AM CDT, Fred Price <n...@hotmail.com 
<mailto:n...@hotmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Because it seems a lot of ops want a set it and forget it piece of software. 
The things I read on this list that ops want WSJT to do amazes me.

 

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