Roeland,

Agree.  In the CQWW VHF contest the rules make it clear the signal report
is *not* part of the exchange.  Maybe that is your point - can't quite tell
from your email.

John

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:07 AM Roeland Jansen <roeland.janse...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> contest stations generally only want valid contacts (according to the
> contest rules) to prevent
> a penalty. That also is a thing.
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 2:31 PM Ryan Tourge <ryan.tou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A bit prissy to exclude a station that lacks a signal report. You both
>> ack'd each other. obviously the call took place.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 6:53 AM Fred Price <n...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ed,
>> >
>> > You do know that if you are using LoTW to confirm your QSO's then all
>> that is needed for a valid QSO is:
>> > Exchange of calls
>> > Band
>> > Date
>> > Time +/-30 minutes
>> >
>> > So it makes no difference if your signal report is a SNR or a grid
>> square. However since it is your station it is your choice on how you log.
>> > Have fun n enjoy after all it's not life of death it's just a hobby.
>> >
>> > Fred
>> > N2XK
>> >
>> > On Jul 22, 2019 12:01 AM, Ed Muns <e...@w0yk.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Great tip, Laurie.
>> >
>> > This is a good technique if one can reasonably assume that the majority
>> of
>> > QSO partners sending a signal report will not complete the QSO, or log
>> it,
>> > if the contester only sends a Grid Square.
>> >
>> > IOW, if a contester set to NA VHF Contest mode connects up with a
>> > "non-contester" set to normal mode (Special Activity unchecked), and
>> both
>> > are configured for Auto Seq, then the QSO will complete without any
>> operator
>> > intervention.  However, the contester will not have sent a signal
>> report to
>> > the non-contester.  That may be an issue, because the non-contester may
>> > continue to send his SNR message, hoping to elicit an SNR in return.
>> Or, he
>> > may not log the contact because he never received an SNR from the
>> contester.
>> > This may not be a problem for the contester, because the non-contester
>> is
>> > unlikely to submit a Cabrillo log, so the contester will avoid a NIL.
>> >
>> > Back to your tip of setting up two instances of WSJT-X, one with NA VHF
>> > Contest mode enabled and one with Special Activity unchecked.  This is a
>> > good technique for the contester to get another QSO in the log that
>> > otherwise would not happen, IF the assumption is the majority of "mixed"
>> > QSOs as described above will not complete successfully because the
>> > non-contester is concerned that he didn't receive a signal report.
>> >
>> > The contester has to decide whether to power through the QSO in the NA
>> VHF
>> > Contest mode, or to on-the-fly switch to his "SNR Configuration" that
>> uses
>> > the standard non-contest message sequence and indeed sends an SNR
>> message to
>> > the non-contester.
>> >
>> > Ed W0YK
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Laurie, VK3AMA <_vk3a...@vkdxer.net>
>> > Sent: 21 July, 2019 16:04
>> > To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Contest confusion
>> >
>> > On 22/07/2019 7:16 am, Jim Brown wrote:
>> > > so I quickly switched out of contest mode to work him. :)
>> > >
>> > > What I WOULD like is to able to do this without going to Settings
>> > > Advanced. All those clicks loses a TX cycle.
>> > >
>> > > 73, Jim K9YC
>> >
>> > Simple and only requires a single mouse click. Setup two configurations
>> > in WSJT-X, one for you desired contest and the other non-contest. Once
>> > setup, it is a single click using the "Configuration" menu to switch
>> > between contest and non-contest.
>> >
>> > de Laurie VK3AMA
>> >
>> >
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