When it happens again do the WWV recording with Audacity and note the time you
shut down JTAlert in the recording time indication.It has to be doing something
to the sound recording --
Having both the Audacity and WAV files would be of use.
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 08:21:29 AM CDT, Hasan al-Basri
<hbasri.schie...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mike
Never. The monitor (Hi-Sense TV) is on until I go to bed, then I turn the TV
off. Ever since I found out that there was a JTA > X interaction that was
causing the problem, I have looked carefully in the morning when I come down to
the shack to see if X is still decoding...and it is, except on those occasions
every 2 days or so, when it isn't. This is NOT correlated with the monitor
going on or off. I have looked at that issue carefully.
Further this has been going on long before I started using the HDMI TV's audio
for JTA. I changed it to see if it would solve the issue you and I have been
discussing (for over a month now).
I finally made some reliable, reproducible progress. JTA and X are interacting
in such a way that decoding in X stops and can easily be restored by doing
nothing more than closing JTA. period.
I can then restart JTA and go for days. Then it will happen again, and the
solution is the same. 73, N0ANHasan
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 8:09 AM Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Does your monitor go to sleep? JTAlert should only be hooking up to the
playback device so not sure how it could affect recording. Possible that the
JTAlert package does passively hook up to recording...that would explain why a
restart might have an effect on recording....perhaps changing the sample rate?
One thing that might be of interest is, when decoding stops, switch the rig to
WWV and record the WWV signal. Then restart JTAlert and note the time it stops
an starts and we can look at the WAV file to see what changes.
Recording with Audacity would be nice.
Mike
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 08:04:14 AM CDT, Hasan al-Basri
<hbasri.schie...@gmail.com> wrote:
Totally different sound cards. JTA uses my HDMI monitor seen as an Nvidia, X
uses my USB sound dongle. I've changed dongles, ...no difference. I've chased
the sound card potential issue from several angles...that's not it.
...and Windows system uses the internal sound card of the computer.
Hasan
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 7:43 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
What do you have for the soundcard setting in JTAlert and WSJT-X?
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 07:30:17 AM CDT, Hasan al-Basri
<hbasri.schie...@gmail.com> wrote:
Uwe,I just changed both those settings you recommended. Now, I'll have to
wait, up to a couple days to see if it accomplished anything.
Unfortunately the onset of the problem is random, and can take 2 or 3 days or
only a few hours. Curing it is easy. I'll report back as I'm watching it. For
sure will post first failure, if your idea did not work. Thanks for the
suggestion. 73, N0ANHasan
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:52 AM DG2YCB, Uwe <dg2...@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi Hasan,
An interesting observation! What if you uncheck the boxed “Color Band
Activity…” and/or “Highlight Band Activity…”? Is the error still there or is it
gone?
I had in the past also some (other) troubles with JTAlert, but it turned out
that some files on my computer must have been corrupted. Uninstalled JTAlert
completely, removed all remaining files manually and the reinstalled JTAlert
again, and all the errors were gone. Maybe also worth to try…
73 de Uwe, DG2YCB
Von: Hasan al-Basri [mailto:hbasri.schie...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juli 2019 12:33
An: WSJT software development
Betreff: [wsjt-devel] Loss of Decoding in WSJT-X with Audio Still Present
First of all, no, the cause is not clock error.
I have found the "proximate" cause, however, after weeks of hunting. I worked
with W9MDB and tested/considered many potential causes. I even thought I had
found it several times. In all those cases there was a confounding variable,
which I have now isolated. I have found the cure, just not the cause, hence I'm
posting this info here.
I have been fighting this problem for weeks, and finally found a reproducible
set of actions that cures the problem, immediately every time! (until it
recurs and then the same steps solve it)
In this discussion X means the 64 bit 2.01 version of WSJT-X, and JTA means
JTAlert. (earlier versions of both programs act the same way, since installing
the first 64 bit version of X. That may have been a coincidence, (64 bit
install), but what follows is not!
I have observed 100% correlation between the problem and running both
programs involved listed below. I am not assigning cause, but some sort of
interaction between the two programs has got to be the cause, as doing what I
describe below restores decoding in X every time.
What doesn't work:
Stopping X with button.
Closing X and restarting it.
Closing other running programs like Chrome, SDRC, etc
What has cured it every time:
Shut down JTAlert.
Proof:
Every time I found X not decoding, but audio was still showing on the
thermometer and also showing on the waterfall:
I closed JTA and immediately on the very next sequence, X began decoding again.
(On its own, I did no intervention with X at all) I could then restart JTA and
X would continue to decode for hours, if not days (2 or 3 max). When it
eventually stopped decoding again, a simple closing of JTA restored X decoding
at the next sequence.
So, the stoppages are random, going no more than a few days, but the cure is
not!
This has worked EVERY time since discovering the correlation between X and JTA!
Prior to this, the only cure was to reboot the computer.
If you are having this problem, and also run JTA, try my solution.
I have no idea what the cause might be, but this correlation should give the
development team an idea where to look.
Win10 Home, 64 bit, AMD Quad Core
Also, this does not happen on every computer I have running copies of X and
JTA. Not every one of them is using JTA.
73, N0AN
Hasan
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