Reino, Haha Yes, but no, but yes, but no ...
For QSO purposes, I think RRR and RR73 are identical, reception of either means 
QSO complete, LOG THE QSO.

R R R 73 de Paul G3NJV

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From: Reino Talarmo <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:13:08 PM
To: 'WSJT software development' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 and FT8 Contesting


Hi Paul

I agree your comment on RRR or RR73 being confirmation of reception ”R” ack.
There is a minor difference though RR73 is “I am fully happy and don’t expect 
any further response from you”, while RRR is usually taken to mean “I received 
you confirmation, but I want to be sure that you received my confirmation as 
well (before logging this QSO)” and then 73 from you is that confirmation of 
confirmation. Some even want a 73 to that 73 as confirmation of the 
confirmation of the confirmation!

73, Reino oh3mA



From: Paul Randall [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 27. helmikuuta 2020 22:46
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Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 and FT8 Contesting



”......And when one QSO partner repeats either R-10 or RRR or RR73, it is
his indication that he didn't copy the ack,....”



Surely that statement is wrong.

You only send RRR or RR73 to CONFIRM receiving the other stations “R” ack, 
never to indicate no copy.

Sending R -10 means you copied the other stations report, you keep sending it 
until you get RRR or RR73. Once you get it, that’s the end of the QSO. Nothing 
else required. If you don’t get it, it isn’t a QSO.

I think the WSJT message exchange protocol is based on decades old moonbounce 
and MS procedures where 73 is simply a luxury that often isn’t affordable.



Best regards Paul



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On 2/27/2020 7:56 AM, Ron WV4P wrote:
> RR73 is not part of the exchange.

Wrong. The definition of a QSO is the exchange of callsign and one piece
of info by each party, and the acknowledgement of receipt by by each.
Each station must receive acknowledgement of the other's exchange. If
that "information" is the signal report, The first ack is the R in R-10,
the second, by the other station, is RRR or RR73. What is NOT required
is 73. But it IS required for each station to have copied the other's
ack. And when one QSO partner repeats either R-10 or RRR or RR73, it is
his indication that he didn't copy the ack, and the other station should
repeat the ack.

73, Jim K9YC




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