I agree with you 100% but that does not take away the fact there was abundant confusion for many ops. Just watching this play out, you would see almost the same amount of ops transmitting odd as well as even attempting to respond.
In my humble opinion, they should have been using F&H and even. If they decide not to use F&H, transmit even anyway. F&H would have had added benefit of keeping their TX’s clear of other ops. What I saw on my waterfall was an odd/even everyone everywhere. 73 de Dwayne AB6A > On Feb 15, 2023, at 8:52 AM, 5p1kzx Michael via wsjt-devel > <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > Hi All > > If a station that looks like F/H calls 15/45 it ain't no Fox/Hound station. > It's a MSHV Multislot/channel. Because a station is TXing on more than one > channel at the same time doesn't make it a Fox/Hound station. > > 73 de 5p1kzx Michael > > Den 15-02-2023 kl. 17:04 skrev David Kjellquist via wsjt-devel: >> Unlike WSJT-X, JTDX software allows F&H on either odd or even >> >> On 2/15/2023 10:44 AM, Ron WV4P via wsjt-devel wrote: >>> Lots of the people that got Clublog confirmations worked them in the Wrong >>> time Slot. So the issue was real. >>> >>> Ron, WV4P >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:42 AM Palle Preben-Hansen, OZ1RH via wsjt-devel >>> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: >>>> Fred, there were many 3Y0J pirates on, maybe you worked one of them? >>>> >>>> 73, Palle, OZ1RH. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Message: 1 >>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:15:14 -0300 >>>>> From: Fred Carvalho <fred.py...@gmail.com <mailto:fred.py...@gmail.com>> >>>>> To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>, Joe >>>>> Taylor <j...@princeton.edu <mailto:j...@princeton.edu>> >>>>> Subject: [wsjt-devel] 3Y0J strange F/H operation >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> >>>>> <CALOHH3iY=amkusdqWvQ47P+ej5pgz=iro0npmjsguxuxx71...@mail.gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:iro0npmjsguxuxx71...@mail.gmail.com>> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>> >>>>> GM to all >>>>> >>>>> *This concerns F/H operation in 3Y0J* >>>>> >>>>> During the DXpedition the team announced multiple times that they were >>>>> using WSJT DXPedition Mode (F/H). However, FOX was most of the time in >>>>> ODD >>>>> periods and accepted reports in any spot in the channel. QSY below 1000Hz >>>>> was not necessary. My QSOs with them were always like that. It took me >>>>> some >>>>> time to understand how to work them, which I think was the same to most of >>>>> the callers. BTW, I have never seen FOX out of sync. The worst that I can >>>>> remember was 0.4s. >>>>> >>>>> Many thought ? myself included- that they were not using WSJTx, but some >>>>> other multistream DXP mode application. However one of the operators >>>>> confirmed to me that they have used WSJT software. >>>>> >>>>> After the expedition they have stated that : ? *We had issues with the >>>>> FT8 >>>>> due to we did not have any device to sync against, and our clock was 14 >>>>> seconds off - which meant we at some time were TX odd, while we thought it >>>>> was even.*? >>>>> >>>>> Well a simple GPS device connected to one of their notebooks would have >>>>> prevented the problem above. >>>>> >>>>> So my questions to the developers are: >>>>> >>>>> a) Is it really possible that lack of sync would lead them to TX in >>>>> ODD periods as FOX ? >>>>> >>>>> b) How come QSY below 1000 HZ was not necessary for the Hound to >>>>> finalize the QSO with them? >>>>> >>>>> This is very intriguing to many of us. Some clarification on what happened >>>>> is very much appreciated >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Fred PY2XB >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Fred - PY2XB >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> wsjt-devel mailing list >>>> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wsjt-devel mailing list >>> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> -- >> Dave WB5NHL >> 8 band DXCC, 317 countries confirmed (Mixed , current) >> Hamshack Hotline 5555 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
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