Hi All,

I use Meinberg NTP with Windows 10. About two weeks ago with V2.6.1, I do NOT remember if it was with 3Y0J, I found that my FT8 RX DECODE matched the required time line position, about 13-14.9 seconds after the beginning of the correct period (I believe it was EVEN). But at the same time my TX was starting like 7-8 seconds LATE (per the red light on the rig) BUT the reported time for the beginning of TX on the screen was reported as "right on" e.g. 15 or 45 (in ODD). And it was being reported late also. I was also NOT making any Qs. I figured that the TX "daemon" was "spinning" late, so I rebooted the computer and started everything up again (also restarted Meinberg NTP) and both RX and TX were in the correct DT error position and I was making Qs again.

I don't know if there really is a TX "daemon" in WSJT-X FT8. I did not report this because it was during 3Y0J activity and I was, you might say, busy.

-73, Glenn, AF8C

On 2/15/2023 11:52 AM, 5p1kzx Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
Hi All

If a station that looks like F/H calls 15/45 it ain't no Fox/Hound station. It's a MSHV Multislot/channel. Because a station is TXing on more than one channel at the same time doesn't make it a Fox/Hound station.

73 de 5p1kzx Michael

Den 15-02-2023 kl. 17:04 skrev David Kjellquist via wsjt-devel:

Unlike WSJT-X, JTDX software allows F&H on either odd or even

On 2/15/2023 10:44 AM, Ron WV4P via wsjt-devel wrote:
Lots of the people that got Clublog confirmations worked them in the Wrong time Slot. So the issue was real.

Ron, WV4P

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:42 AM Palle Preben-Hansen, OZ1RH via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

    Fred, there were many 3Y0J pirates on, maybe you worked one of them?

    73, Palle, OZ1RH.


        Message: 1
        Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:15:14 -0300
        From: Fred Carvalho <fred.py...@gmail.com>
        To: WSJT software development
        <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>, Joe
                Taylor <j...@princeton.edu>
        Subject: [wsjt-devel] 3Y0J strange F/H operation
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        GM to all

        *This concerns F/H operation in 3Y0J*

        During the DXpedition the team announced multiple times that
        they were
        using WSJT DXPedition Mode (F/H). However, FOX was most of
        the time in ODD
        periods and accepted reports in any spot in the channel. QSY
        below 1000Hz
        was not necessary. My QSOs with them were always like that.
        It took me some
        time to understand how to work them, which I think was the
        same to most of
        the callers. BTW,  I have never seen FOX out of sync. The
        worst that I can
        remember was 0.4s.

        Many thought ? myself included- that they were not using
        WSJTx, but some
        other multistream DXP mode application. However one of the
        operators
        confirmed to me that they have used WSJT software.

        After the expedition they have stated that : ? *We had
        issues  with the FT8
        due to we did not have any device to sync against, and our
        clock was 14
        seconds off - which meant we at some time were TX odd, while
        we thought it
        was even.*?

        Well a simple GPS device connected to one of their notebooks
        would have
        prevented the problem above.

        So my questions to the developers are:

        a)      Is it really possible that lack of sync would lead
        them to TX in
        ODD periods as FOX ?

        b)      How come QSY below 1000 HZ was not necessary for the
        Hound to
        finalize the QSO with them?

        This is very intriguing to many of us. Some clarification on
        what happened
        is very much appreciated

        Thanks Fred PY2XB

-- Fred - PY2XB

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