Hey Reino

I fully understand your concerns. Clearly this idea has been considered.
Conceptually I believe a slightly different approach might overcome some of
those difficulties, however I am conscious of derailing Uwe’s thread, so I
won’t.

Uwe, good luck with the search.

Best wishes
Tom

On Sat, 13 May 2023 at 11:05, Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> > From: Tom M0LTE via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net]
>
> > Sent: lauantai 13. toukokuuta 2023 10.58
> >While manual testing could probably never be eliminated in the case of
> hamlib, has there been any consideration of creating test harnesses to
> remove/reduce the need for manual testing?
>
> >It strikes me that there could be potential to capture test cases from
> manual testing with real rigs, then at least there would be regression
> tests. Future bug fixes could have test cases added to prevent further
> regression, again without requiring physical radios and manual testing.
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Your proposal could work in an ideal world.
> There are just minor requirements before it is easily done.
> #1 There should be a (well) defined and agreed CAT protocol that all rig
> manufactures follow.
> #2 All rigs should have tested against that protocol.
> #3 Resources to design and prepare the test program.
> #4 Resources to design and prepare the Hamlib testing harness against the
> agreed CAT protocol.
>
> On #1 we have a subset of commands that are commonly used. Even no agreed
> minimum responses to commands are agreed. There is no performance
> requirements such as timing.
> The #2 is a farfetched dream.
> The #3, hups, did I mentioned this?
> The #4, just what!
>
> In addition there are in some implementations bugs and the public CAT
> command set behaves differently than assumed. All those deal to a situation
> that the manual testing of most radios is the best way to perform this
> testing task. For that we need is the famous 'somebody' to keep it going
> and reporting to the Hamlib task force.
>
> Sorry of being to pessimistic, I have some experience on that kind of
> issue and now safely retired.
>
> 73, Reino OH3mA
>
>
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