I agree on Uwes position over '''Rejnos, certainty...
On 13/5/23 22:59, Tom M0LTE via wsjt-devel wrote:
Hey Reino
I fully understand your concerns. Clearly this idea has been
considered. Conceptually I believe a slightly different approach might
overcome some of those difficulties, however I am conscious of
derailing Uwe’s thread, so I won’t.
Uwe, good luck with the search.
Best wishes
Tom
On Sat, 13 May 2023 at 11:05, Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> From: Tom M0LTE via wsjt-devel
[mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net]
> Sent: lauantai 13. toukokuuta 2023 10.58
>While manual testing could probably never be eliminated in the
case of hamlib, has there been any consideration of creating test
harnesses to remove/reduce the need for manual testing?
>It strikes me that there could be potential to capture test cases
from manual testing with real rigs, then at least there would be
regression tests. Future bug fixes could have test cases added to
prevent further regression, again without requiring physical
radios and manual testing.
Hi Tom,
Your proposal could work in an ideal world.
There are just minor requirements before it is easily done.
#1 There should be a (well) defined and agreed CAT protocol that
all rig manufactures follow.
#2 All rigs should have tested against that protocol.
#3 Resources to design and prepare the test program.
#4 Resources to design and prepare the Hamlib testing harness
against the agreed CAT protocol.
On #1 we have a subset of commands that are commonly used. Even no
agreed minimum responses to commands are agreed. There is no
performance requirements such as timing.
The #2 is a farfetched dream.
The #3, hups, did I mentioned this?
The #4, just what!
In addition there are in some implementations bugs and the public
CAT command set behaves differently than assumed. All those deal
to a situation that the manual testing of most radios is the best
way to perform this testing task. For that we need is the famous
'somebody' to keep it going and reporting to the Hamlib task force.
Sorry of being to pessimistic, I have some experience on that kind
of issue and now safely retired.
73, Reino OH3mA
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